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Re: GirlfriendGPT – OSS AI Companion

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Post by exitb »

blurrypepe wrote: post #25
exitb wrote: post #7

Why the role playing? Isn't it easier to accept the chatbot for what it is? I broker the communication between my son and ChatGPT and they don't role-play anything - there's no imaginary friend dynamic going on. He just talks with the computer, because it knows stuff about things he's interested in.

Your son wants to learn stuff and the computer helps him with that. People that want an AI girlfriend don't care about the knowledge and usefulness of ChatGPT, they just want to use it to feel less lonely. Not at all the same use case. Although I agree with you, it's kind of sad that a lot of people will probably use chatbots to make up for no human contact in their life instead of using it to learn stuff and/or to f…

The weird thing is that in my opinion it can be quite human-like. When needed it can be understanding, compassionate, supportive etc. Those are qualities that can provide certain amount of companionship to people that lack it. One just has to understand that it's not a person - it doesn't experience anything outside of the chat.

You can ask it to come up with an idea for a dinner and a movie for the evening and then discuss them once they're finished. You know, things people do with actual girlfriends. I'm sure it will be more fun than a robotic selfie and a made up story.

Re: GirlfriendGPT – OSS AI Companion

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Post by naillo »

jakkos wrote: post #4

I'm very torn on this. On one hand, I think that personalized OSS AIs are the future from a pure utility perspective, and it will inevitably be "more fun" for them to have personalities. I also think that if someone is deriving joy from something and not harming anyone else, who I am to judge them. On the other, I've already found myself asking ChatGPT questions that I would have asked on a forum/discord or even a co…

I think of it as simply entertainment. It won't replace real human interaction with a partner but it's a fun consequence free environment. Tv shows act out dramatic scenes that would be traumatic and have real consequences if you experienced them in real life, but on the screen you get to play around with the idea in your head in a safe area and maybe learn something in the process.

Re: GirlfriendGPT – OSS AI Companion

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Post by yosito »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #40

Do we think a Boyfriend version will ever come along? Interesting that I've seen so much talk about AI girlfriends but there's a quiet assumption that straight women won't be interested in this technology. Is that correct?

Most HN readers would probably benefit from MotherGPT.

Re: GirlfriendGPT – OSS AI Companion

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Post by Tepix »

yreg wrote: post #38

The concerns mentioned in this thread are very valid, but there is a second side to this as well. There are many lonely people, be it for depression, anxiety, inability to create social contacts, living in exclusion, being old and having no descendants, … They are largely invisible to the rest of the society. Seems to me that this technology might make their lives more bearable.

Perhaps more bearable but ultimately more lonely.

Re: GirlfriendGPT – OSS AI Companion

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Post by whstl »

pluijzer wrote: post #24
surgical_fire wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it already is removing human interactions from my life This is the best feature of ChatGPT for me, and the reason I pay for it.

For me, asking something on the Internet, like on stackoverflow is usually, the very last option. I am too afraid to get ridiculed for it or get scolded for not having put enough effort in my question that already feels more as a thesis. Maybe this is just me and this does not reflect reality but I do have the nagging feeling I a bother somebody with it and it gives a bit of stress. Not so with ChatGPT, I can just as…

As someone who never asked a question in StackOverflow for what are probably similar reasons (despite being in this career for 20 years), I still find that ChatGPT in this regard is still more like a Google or an improved StackOverflow/documentation search…

It can infer some things, modify variable names to match mine, but for the real hairy stuff I still gotta do the legwork myself, normally by reaching out for the source code.

Re: GirlfriendGPT – OSS AI Companion

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Post by whitepaint »

yreg wrote: post #38

The concerns mentioned in this thread are very valid, but there is a second side to this as well. There are many lonely people, be it for depression, anxiety, inability to create social contacts, living in exclusion, being old and having no descendants, … They are largely invisible to the rest of the society. Seems to me that this technology might make their lives more bearable.

> Seems to me that this technology might make their lives more bearable.

Or it might make their lives even more horrible. We don't know for sure. I guess eventually we will see once the studies are done on this in a few years.

Re: GirlfriendGPT – OSS AI Companion

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Post by neuronic »

surgical_fire wrote: post #11
jakkos wrote: post #4

I'm very torn on this. On one hand, I think that personalized OSS AIs are the future from a pure utility perspective, and it will inevitably be "more fun" for them to have personalities. I also think that if someone is deriving joy from something and not harming anyone else, who I am to judge them. On the other, I've already found myself asking ChatGPT questions that I would have asked on a forum/discord or even a co…

> it already is removing human interactions from my life This is the best feature of ChatGPT for me, and the reason I pay for it.

But that depends on which interactions it replaces. There are people I don't want to talk to. Not always because I don't like them but because it's technicalities and unrewarding forced interactions. For example, clerks at the tax office who just do their job.

But on the other hand, there are interactions which I really don't want to miss! "Girlfriend" GPT is already targeting the most intricate and joyful interactions in my life: my SO.

Let's say we break up and I fall into a depression. Instead of recovering and moving on, will I install a personal OSS AI companion to save myself the hassle of modern dating? Therefore preventing myself from attempting novel interactions sooner? Or will it help me instead to overcome a dark period and prime me for the future?

Can it help people combat loneliness - a disease widespread and not to be trifled with? Or will it enhance loneliness by effectively fooling your brain into not caring anymore because you can just open an app?

At what point will it not matter anymore because saving someone from depression is more valuable than keeping it "real" at all times?

Re: GirlfriendGPT – OSS AI Companion

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Post by Applejinx »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #40

Do we think a Boyfriend version will ever come along? Interesting that I've seen so much talk about AI girlfriends but there's a quiet assumption that straight women won't be interested in this technology. Is that correct?

Very much not correct. I thought it had started with AI boyfriends. The story about those was that, in tapping into what you might call the 'boyfriend archetype', the AIs tended to portray maleness by getting bullying and abusive, sometimes to a shocking degree.

I think there's a lot to be learned by studying all this, but boy is it an ethical minefield.

There's no question that you can get an AI to drop into a 'boyfriend' or 'girlfriend' mode, using the sum total of human discourse as its neural network (okay, using GPT), but in so doing it's revealing more about us than it is about itself. It doesn't know how to male, or how to female, except for what it draws from us. Its failures are revealing on a very deep level.

Re: GirlfriendGPT – OSS AI Companion

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Post by TeMPOraL »

pluijzer wrote: post #24
surgical_fire wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it already is removing human interactions from my life This is the best feature of ChatGPT for me, and the reason I pay for it.

For me, asking something on the Internet, like on stackoverflow is usually, the very last option. I am too afraid to get ridiculed for it or get scolded for not having put enough effort in my question that already feels more as a thesis. Maybe this is just me and this does not reflect reality but I do have the nagging feeling I a bother somebody with it and it gives a bit of stress. Not so with ChatGPT, I can just as…

> Maybe this is just me and this does not reflect reality but I do have the nagging feeling I a bother somebody with it and it gives a bit of stress.

It's not just you. I'm the same way myself - and was since I can remember. On Internet boards, I very rarely ask questions. I answer, or post tangential thoughts, but don't bother people with questions unless I really need the answer, and exhausted the ways of finding it on my own.

There's another angle to it too - impatience. A big part of my resistance to asking question is the unpredictable, and usually large delay between me asking, and getting any kind of answer. This applies to community Slacks, Discords, etc. Thing is, if I have a question to ask, I usually need the answer right now. If I have to wait, I'll context switch, which is deadly for whatever I was doing at that moment.

ChatGPT is a quite good alternative here. I can ask it a question, and refine it based on the answer if it's too vague. The answers I get either solve my problem or point in the direction of solution (that's true even if AI is having an acid trip). And, importantly, I get the answers near-immediately, with no unpredictable delays. I also don't need to cross some karma thresholds, worry about upvote/downvote ratio (too low -> question dies in obscurity), "use the Google, Luke" answers, moderators locking threads for bullshit reasons (hello StackOverflow), etc.

Re: GirlfriendGPT – OSS AI Companion

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Post by sebzim4500 »

sgt101 wrote: post #35
echelon wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amouranth is running one of these for fans at a rate of $1/minute [1, 2]. Supposedly already raking in money. With that example, the flood gates are about to open. [1] https://kotaku.com/twitch-streamer-kaitlyn-amouranth-siragus... [2] https://www.polygon.com/23733515/amouranth-ai-chatbot-foreve...

ahhh I remember the good old days when I could get 8% on some crypto investments and buy a nice ape for $4k before selling it for $400k if only I would wait for the right time.

These people are selling a service, not soliciting investment.

Were you under the impression that the people paying to 'speak' to Amouranth are expecting a financial return?

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