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Re: Severance payments at Wikimedia Foundation

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Post by kortilla »

noobermin wrote: post #298
t8sr wrote: post #289

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I mean, Wikimedia has about 250-300 employees and what they pay their CEO is about what Facebook and Google pay a senior SWE. They seem to run pretty lean to me. Firing everyone and moving to a cheap country doesn't seem feasible, and they already are apparently moving a lot of their hiring to Germany. I don't really see what's outrageous here? > Obviously it's become a gravy train . Oh come on - their CEO manages 25…

To be honest, this more highlights how far out of step tech salaries are with...well everyone else.

Tall poppy syndrome

Re: Severance payments at Wikimedia Foundation

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Post by cubefox »

heyoni wrote: post #371
cubefox wrote: post #358

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It demonizes right-wing YouTubers with the slur "alt-right". There could absolutely no such article exist about a "woke" pipeline. Anti left-wing bias is not acceptable in Wikipedia. Anti right-wing bias is not much of a problem.

Sometimes being wrong is wrong. It’s hard to talk about conservatives in a neutral tone sometimes because stating just the facts can sometimes sound negative. Remember how all the media outlets were “anti Trump” because they all described the voting scandal as being “without evidence”? That’s because there was none. You couldn’t report on that and simultaneously be on the side of reality without also being against th…

Of course "woke" is mostly used in a derogatory way. Again, no such article analysing a supposed "woke pipeline" would be acceptable in Wikipedia.

> Sometimes being wrong is wrong. It’s hard to talk about conservatives in a neutral tone sometimes because stating just the facts can sometimes sound negative.

The same thing can be said about progressives. Nonetheless, the above example would be seen as highly biased.

Re: Severance payments at Wikimedia Foundation

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Post by int_19h »

dragonwriter wrote: post #339
int_19h wrote: post #338

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Two-party dominance has been a feature of the American political scene since before the Civil War - that is, for most of its existence. I wouldn't call that "current short-term circumstances". It's also very hard to change because both major parties benefit from the existing system and are protective of it, knowing full well that proportional representation would cost them a lot of votes. Republicans usually trot out…

> Two-party dominance has been a feature of the American political scene since before the Civil War Really, since America had a meaningful national government with the Constitution rather than being a loose federation of states under the AoC. The Federalists and Democratic-Republicans both were establisged, as was their duopoly, by 1792.

Indeed; I just didn't want to get into the whole debate about whether the replacement of the Whigs with the GOP as the other dominant party was a meaningful change or not. But it's safe to argue that the present system, including the specific parties in question, has been around for >160 years now.

Re: Severance payments at Wikimedia Foundation

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Post by ThinkBeat »

The CEO of the Wikimedia Foundation moving to a higly opinioned think tank with a clear agenda worries me.

I agre with Atlantic Council on a number of issues so I am not expressing a bias against Atlantic Council but on principle.

She is certialy enttited to work whereever she wants and I wish her well.

Re: Severance payments at Wikimedia Foundation

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Post by ThinkBeat »

I thought severance payments went to employees that were laid off? I believe both the people mentioned chose to leave the foundation?

Is severance payment a bonus you accrue by working there?

Only time I have gotten it was when I was laid off. I guess the C* have it better?

Re: Severance payments at Wikimedia Foundation

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Post by Alpha3031 »

Gartent wrote: post #241
pklausler wrote: post #184

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When political parties have distinct relationships with objective truth, stating objective truths becomes political.

I don't think you're aware of the key political issues with Wikipedia. The media rarely lies - this is a key issue at play - https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/the-media-very-rarely-... >But people - including the very worst perpetrators of misinformation - very rarely say false facts. Instead, they say true things without enough context. But nobody will ever agree what context is necessary and which context is re…

Fox News isn't banned, unlike the Daily Mail. When it is on the record that everyone from the hosts up to network executives were aware and continued to report falsehoods, one might think the lady doth protest too much.

Re: Severance payments at Wikimedia Foundation

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Post by ThinkBeat »

t8sr wrote: post #289
andersrs wrote: post #14

Just take a look at this graph. The salaries have been bloating whilst hosting expenses are flat and plummeting as a proportion of all expenses. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation#/media/Fi... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation#/media/Fi... Net assets are sitting at ~$240M about 10x what they were a decade ago. Yet they roll out a sob-story banner on every page insinuating that they mi…

I mean, Wikimedia has about 250-300 employees and what they pay their CEO is about what Facebook and Google pay a senior SWE. They seem to run pretty lean to me. Firing everyone and moving to a cheap country doesn't seem feasible, and they already are apparently moving a lot of their hiring to Germany. I don't really see what's outrageous here? > Obviously it's become a gravy train . Oh come on - their CEO manages 25…

It says 700 employees and contractors in 2022.

I wonder what the biggest departments are.

Do you think Sysadmin / tech / development is the highest? followed by editors?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation

Re: Severance payments at Wikimedia Foundation

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Post by eastern »

mattlondon wrote: post #239
ilikehurdles wrote: post #192

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In that time it’s become increasingly challenging to contribute anything to The People’s Encyclopedia. I wanted to update a local wiki page with newer data from its original sources, but apparently I have become blacklisted because I use/used Apple’s private relay and safari’s privacy measures by default in all my browsing. Disabling them didn’t fix it. I would love to sign up as a fallback measure to be able to cont…

It has always been like this - at least for the past 10-15 years or so it has been essentially impossible to edit wikipedia. Basically any change you make it insta-reverted by some bot or over-zealous power-crazed editor. I think some editors decide that they "own" certain pages or group of pages and install themselves as some sort of authority/gate keeper/moderator. If your edit does not please them, it's gone. Inst…

Edits might be for sale for things that matter to companies.

Every Public Relations agency claims to 'manage' the content on clients' Wikipedia pages.

Re: Severance payments at Wikimedia Foundation

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Post by mschuster91 »

hashar wrote: post #376
mschuster91 wrote: post #266

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> we trusted the IP of their client. The community could then block the user behind the proxy. With everything behind https nowadays, that is no more possible (the intermediate proxy can not inject any header to carry the information). Not exactly true - the "Proxy Protocol" [1] was invented for that purpose. Wikipedia as an entity should be large enough to ask Apple if they can implement support for it - the questio…

If that protocol is a technical solution to the problem and match our requirements toward privacy, I don't see why it would not be adopted, then: - The TCP header is not encrypted and thus publicly exposes the IP address of the client - I don't see why the Apple Relays would emit that information since that would defeat its purpose of obscuring the original client IP - It looks like it is a custom protocol between tw…

HAproxy is just an implementer of this protocol, there are others as well (nginx and AWS I know support this), and IIRC also the haproxy community edition.
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