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Re: Growing Up Alyssa

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Post by howinteresting »

jfengel wrote: post #47
ZeroGravitas wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not assigning the worst possible motivations to people who don't vote like them. It's actually the opposite, they're trying to speak to the people who might vote Republican and who may not realise what they are voting for.

I have a very hard time believing they don't realize who they're voting for. This isn't a secret. They're quite explicit about it. I had been willing to believe that they simply put other issues first, which was merely selfish and short-sighted -- the kind of thing a democracy can be moderately robust for. But the culture war is front page news every day in every medium, and I simply cannot believe any more that it's…

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Re: Growing Up Alyssa

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Post by [deleted] »

ribit wrote: post #15
Veen wrote: post #3

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The most vociferous "anti-trans" people tend to be left-leaning feminists, in my experience.

And your comment might even be relevant if “left-leaning feminists” were a non-fringe political power threatening to take over legislative, executive, and judicial branches of power. We have real problems to deal with, not some imaginary “bad feminism”.

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Re: Growing Up Alyssa

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Post by eropple »

antisthenes wrote: post #73
dj_mc_merlin wrote: post #69

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> Only assuming you can process information from the real world correctly, which isn't a given. Not a judgment on you personally. You realize this claim can be made about you too, right? You might believe you process information correctly, but that's a very strong claim, without much supporting it.

I don't need external validation for that claim. My experience in being correct and good outcomes are the support that I need. The fact that you don't have access to that empiric information is just unfortunate, but ultimately nothing that makes a difference.

Shot:

> My experience in being correct and good outcomes are the support that I need.

Chaser:

> antisthenes 1 day ago | parent | context | prev | next [–] | on: A rant on bus stops

> Some points in the article are hit and miss, but mostly correct.

> For example, Istanbul is flourishing because it's the Turkish capital, so it necessarily is the most dense and rich city in the country.

Re: Growing Up Alyssa

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Post by archagon »

jawns wrote: post #46
_pjx9 wrote: post #33

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This is a bad moment to be playing the enlightened centrist. The main point is that one party in particular is pushing discriminatory legislation against a minority group and demonizing them. That counts as oppression to me. People who vote for said party are therefore voting for those things - voting for despite not supporting such policies is still enabling said discrimination. Your response seems victim blamey. Ye…

If you're familiar with the history of the Rwandan genocide, it was not simply a matter of the vulnerable Tutsis being massacred by the evil Hutus. The genocide was the culmination of a hundred-plus years of power shifting from one group to the other. When the Tutsis were in power, they made life hell for the Hutus, and when the Hutus were in power, they made life hell for the Tutsis. Each group came to see the other…

Who is making life hell for the Republicans, other than the Republican Party itself?

Re: Growing Up Alyssa

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Post by tuttlee »

School-Cotton wrote: post #65
dale_glass wrote: post #21

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Not really. Statistically there will be weird coincidences completely naturally. It's also quite arbitrary which we see as meaningful. If say, Linux networking has unusually many people called "John" that probably will be unnoticed because nobody pays that much attention to common, unremarkable names. If they all randomly turn out to have green eyes, then that's more visible. It's completely subjective which of those…

It is not just a random coincidence. It's a phenomenon more broadly across programming, especially very low-level/hardware stuff.

There does seem to be a correlation between autism spectrum and gender confusion, with the former often present in individuals who are into highly technical pursuits.

The logic seems to be not conforming to masculine stereotypes ==> must be a woman.

Re: Growing Up Alyssa

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Post by gcmn »

_pjx9 wrote: post #33
jawns wrote: post #14

> if you vote Republican in 2024, you vote erasure. You vote oppression. You vote fascism As a registered independent who finds both major parties unconscionable, this line of argument worries me. Frankly, members of both parties can ascribe the worst possible motives to those who vote for the opposition, precisely because both parties are a massive tangle of complex social, economic, political, and administrative is…

This is a bad moment to be playing the enlightened centrist. The main point is that one party in particular is pushing discriminatory legislation against a minority group and demonizing them. That counts as oppression to me. People who vote for said party are therefore voting for those things - voting for despite not supporting such policies is still enabling said discrimination. Your response seems victim blamey. Ye…

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Re: Growing Up Alyssa

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Post by fmnst »

ribit wrote: post #15
Veen wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The most vociferous "anti-trans" people tend to be left-leaning feminists, in my experience.

And your comment might even be relevant if “left-leaning feminists” were a non-fringe political power threatening to take over legislative, executive, and judicial branches of power. We have real problems to deal with, not some imaginary “bad feminism”.

Feminism advocating for women as a sex caste fighting for their rights in a male-dominated world is the only type of feminism that makes any sense. Everything else is, to varying extents, pandering to male wants and desires.

Re: Growing Up Alyssa

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

gcmn wrote: post #86
_pjx9 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a bad moment to be playing the enlightened centrist. The main point is that one party in particular is pushing discriminatory legislation against a minority group and demonizing them. That counts as oppression to me. People who vote for said party are therefore voting for those things - voting for despite not supporting such policies is still enabling said discrimination. Your response seems victim blamey. Ye…

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Are you talking about the abortion bans that seem to have further expanded the 5-11% lead in voting preference among women that Democrats have over Republicans for decades?

Re: Growing Up Alyssa

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Post by _pjx9 »

jawns wrote: post #46
_pjx9 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a bad moment to be playing the enlightened centrist. The main point is that one party in particular is pushing discriminatory legislation against a minority group and demonizing them. That counts as oppression to me. People who vote for said party are therefore voting for those things - voting for despite not supporting such policies is still enabling said discrimination. Your response seems victim blamey. Ye…

If you're familiar with the history of the Rwandan genocide, it was not simply a matter of the vulnerable Tutsis being massacred by the evil Hutus. The genocide was the culmination of a hundred-plus years of power shifting from one group to the other. When the Tutsis were in power, they made life hell for the Hutus, and when the Hutus were in power, they made life hell for the Tutsis. Each group came to see the other…

Thanks for pointing out the tensions that existed in Rwanda that led up to it. I was particularly analogizing on the point just before the genocide, where the faction in power were unpersoning and calling for violence against their later victims.

In the end the analogy is flawed either way you spin it. Democrat and Republican voters are not ethnic/cultural groups in a country recently ravaged by colonialism.

But again, I am noting that someone is complaining about increasing oppression against their minority group, and you are lamenting about them playing into party politics.

Human rights are more important than the issue of having a healthy political culture. I thought it was inappropriate and out of touch to focus on the latter in this context.

Re: Growing Up Alyssa

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Post by antisthenes »

dj_mc_merlin wrote: post #75
antisthenes wrote: post #73

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I don't need external validation for that claim. My experience in being correct and good outcomes are the support that I need. The fact that you don't have access to that empiric information is just unfortunate, but ultimately nothing that makes a difference.

.. this is why you're online bragging about how much better you are to other people, right?

I wasn't bragging about anything. Some random guy was trying to drag me down to the level of his poorly thought through opinions.

I simply told him I had no obligation of doing so.

But you keep misinterpreting everything you read for hot takes or whatever.

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