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SimCity 4 was released 20 years ago

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Re: SimCity 4 was released 20 years ago

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This is a stretch. 4 was alright, but it also marked the death of the series. 3 was great, 2 was legendary. There's a great reason Cities: Skylines became the spiritual successor.

Simcity 4 was the high point, it was its putrid and inbred successor that killed off the franchise.

Re: SimCity 4 was released 20 years ago

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post #5

I prefer SimCity 2000. I feel like it hit a pretty good sweet spot between simulation and fun (which is to say, not even a vague gesturing at anything remotely realistic). Realistic simulation in games is almost universally less fun than simple, predictable game logic. Probably the most extreme example of this is chess: way more enjoyable than real warfare. Back on topic though. My beef with SimCity 4 is that it adde…

SimCity 2000 is definitely my favorite. I'm surprised someone hasn't made a version of it with a larger map (or infinite map).

Re: SimCity 4 was released 20 years ago

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post #18
post #8

Nostalgia wave at seeing images from this game again I like Cities: Skylines but am a little turned off at how central the traffic management is to the gameplay. Maybe I just never figured out all the right optimizations, but it feels like after a certain city size you're just spending all your time reworking your roads

That’s actually why I like the game. Logistics is everything. A city is not merely a beautiful arrangement of buildings, it is a machine with many moving parts. If you neglect the movements, the city won’t function and your people will move out. Unless it kills them first.

The problem is that the traffic issue is nonstop and affects things, so you have to fix it. In reality at least the traffic will resolve itself overnight.

Re: SimCity 4 was released 20 years ago

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post #3

I think SimCity 4 is the best city simulator game. Cities Skylines is an excellent city painter ; however.

Cities Skylines just turns into "transportation mode simulator" for me. Still fun, but it is not the same thing.

It makes sense, given that its developer also developed Cities in Motion 1 & 2, which are _especially_ transportation mode simulators.

Re: SimCity 4 was released 20 years ago

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I think SimCity 4 is the best city simulator game. Cities Skylines is an excellent city painter ; however.

CSL as a virtual model hobby is a great way to save space and money. The cool thing is you can paint your cities and still play the traffic management game, down to timing the signals at individual intersections.

I want a VR version that supports mods

Re: SimCity 4 was released 20 years ago

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post #8

Nostalgia wave at seeing images from this game again I like Cities: Skylines but am a little turned off at how central the traffic management is to the gameplay. Maybe I just never figured out all the right optimizations, but it feels like after a certain city size you're just spending all your time reworking your roads

There's a reason most people playing Cities: Skylines play with mods that do things like staggering the age of people moving to your city, allowing businesses to fire workers, patching the occupancy of buildings to be realistic, fixing truck drivers to work properly, etc.

It's a little annoying that they chose to be super realistic with realism in some aspects then kind of fuzz the details on others. Hopefully the sequel corrects this.

Re: SimCity 4 was released 20 years ago

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I have fond memories of simcity 1 and 2000. I currently play cities skylines but it has its cons. I hope cities skylines 2 will have less central traffic and we can zone without road. It's our best hope to a modern simcity.

But this article motivated me to play sc4 again.

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