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The only homeowners in CA, OR, and WA are top executives at large corporations?
I know probably a dozen devs that I regularly talk to from school and the only ones with their own homes have been seniors or higher positions for half a decade or longer.
Seattle Amazon workers plan walkout over return to office, layoffs
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There are so many people that stand to lose if a fully remote work force came to pass. Building management, HR, middle managers, property investors, they're the ones you're hearing I'd guess. Pure software dev jobs are very easy to do remotely, it's not like we spend all day talking to people any way.
Software developers lose due to increased competition. Instead of competing with just silicon valley you are competing with the entire world.
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Most of them sadly can not get even a non remote job easily. Most of big tech, and Amazon specially, massively lowered their hiring floor to hire more over the years, and are full of extremely incompetent people who will find it hard to survive elsewhere. Orgs are more like fiefdoms and full of incompetent people. A lot of such incompetent people know they are incompetent and go to massive lengths to survive (getting…
Astute observation. I imagine this effect will eventually consume any company. Or will it? Do we know of a way to stave it off?
The thing is, the incompetents who are not experts in org politics get sidelined/moved out, and the ones who remain relevant are experts who keep rising with the singular goal of building their fiefdoms. They would sell the company for pennies if they could get 2 more promotions.
By now there are enough incompetent people at VP and director levels in most companies. There is no way to identify performers from the CEO level, and at VP and director levels the incentives are to find the people best for yourself, not for the company.
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#55Is this really going to work? Aren't they laying off people? Just layoff the walkouts
Officially you can’t be fired for striking right? Guessing there’s a lot of ways a company can get around that though.
Strictly within the context of the private world however, I don't know.
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Re: Seattle Amazon workers plan walkout over return to office, layoffs
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are so many people that stand to lose if a fully remote work force came to pass. Building management, HR, middle managers, property investors, they're the ones you're hearing I'd guess. Pure software dev jobs are very easy to do remotely, it's not like we spend all day talking to people any way.
Software developers lose due to increased competition. Instead of competing with just silicon valley you are competing with the entire world.
Practically speaking it's not so different than how it is currently though (except maybe lower CoL areas in the same country), it's very difficult to have FTE's in foreign countries, I am in a position to feel this very much right now- either you have to do very complex accounting, become a multi-national or they have to be hired as contractors.
There's still many barriers to it being off-shored, and the kinds of companies that would do that aggressively are looking to replace you anyway.
Re: Seattle Amazon workers plan walkout over return to office, layoffs
#57This is long overdue. It is well past time for tech workers to organize and demand a larger share of the billions in wealth we’ve generated for the VCs and CEOs.
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Instead of begging to be exploited by billionaires, yob could band together with your fellow tech workers and win better treatment for all of us.
What? These people have lives better than 99% of the population.