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UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Post by clnq »

jklrtx wrote: post #8

Meanwhile, Sunak is celebrating himself with a nauseating propaganda video: https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1660560546465193984 Look how clean and groomed our dear leaders are while they are surveilling the population and ruin the economy. Whatever it takes!

A prompt to do it yourself:

> GPT-4, make a generic 90-second UK political ad script about a G7 meeting in Japan. We don't have much footage, so slow it down and fill it with B-roll. Focus on nonspecific virtues, like freedom and peace. Include quotes from the main politician, and even though it's a video about G7, do a section on Zelensky and Ukrainian conflict.

It keeps writing much better scripts though.

Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Post by phatfish »

chpatrick wrote: post #35
martinald wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it's clear GDPR isn't working as intended. The compliance costs are absolutely enormous and EU member state national courts are leading to rule virtually every tech product being in noncompliance with it, as it so broad. It's likely to lead to the quasi-ban of LLMs sooner rather than later in the EU. This is going to be an enormous challenge to the EUs tech industry if UK and US firms can use LLMs but EU companie…

> The compliance costs are absolutely enormous and EU member state national courts are leading to rule virtually every tech product being in noncompliance with it, as it so broad. Isn't that intended?

Lets face it, an above average number of people commenting here work in covertly monetizing our personal data, as there seems to be quite a few of them rubbed the wrong way by the GDPR I can only conclude it's working rather well.

Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Post by cassianoleal »

hkt wrote: post #28
londons_explore wrote: post #16

Writing a law that says it is illegal to do facial recognition with a computer, but okay do use humans to recognise other humans is stupid. The end result is you'll just have sweatshops of people watching CCTV streams clicking matching face images because it's illegal to get a computer to do it automatically.

The end result is that it isn't economical or practical to do it. Which is a resoundingly good thing.

Precisely. Which is also why we need strong E2EE assurances. I heard the argument that physical phone lines have already been prone to interception so banning E2EE (or mandating backdoors) would be similar. The difference is that wiretapping requires a lot of work and is expensive and as such has to be done only for specific cases. Backdooring E2EE means cheap population-level surveillance.

Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Post by malfist »

johannes1234321 wrote: post #38
martinald wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it's clear GDPR isn't working as intended. The compliance costs are absolutely enormous and EU member state national courts are leading to rule virtually every tech product being in noncompliance with it, as it so broad. It's likely to lead to the quasi-ban of LLMs sooner rather than later in the EU. This is going to be an enormous challenge to the EUs tech industry if UK and US firms can use LLMs but EU companie…

Right, it isn't working. Facebook/Meta was fined a billion today, but still will not respect user's privacy.

Sounds like it needs stronger teeth. Not to be neutered.

Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Post by malfist »

aftbit wrote: post #40

I want my own private live facial recognition in the form of a social secretary that reminds me the names of people that I have met before. That would be a killer app for AR for me.

Honestly, as a person with prosopagnosia, I would kill for a google glass style AR that could just tell me names after someone gets a haircut

Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

te_chris wrote: post #18
ktosobcy wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By a French company from what I heard.

The wonder of the single market, innit.

>single market, innit

Why do you need to initialize the single market method?

Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Post by it_citizen »

martinald wrote: post #32
afavour wrote: post #19

This kind of thing was always my biggest worry going into Brexit. The country has to reimplement a ton of regulation and you know the government and its various hangers on won’t be able to resist “tweaking” every law and regulation to better favour them. Workers rights, human rights… it’s all up for negotiation now. By people who aren’t listening to you.

But it's clear GDPR isn't working as intended. The compliance costs are absolutely enormous and EU member state national courts are leading to rule virtually every tech product being in noncompliance with it, as it so broad. It's likely to lead to the quasi-ban of LLMs sooner rather than later in the EU. This is going to be an enormous challenge to the EUs tech industry if UK and US firms can use LLMs but EU companie…

What does "working as intended" means?

Some sibling comments challenge that it doesn't help reduce the amount of private data stored.

I would argue that GDPR is working as intended on the economic war front. The US weaponized their extraterritorial anti-corruption laws, China is also building similar legal weapons, GDPR is part of the european answer to that: a framework to catch up with other super powers who can pressure foreign companies whenever it pleases them.

Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Post by Nextgrid »

ChrisKnott wrote: post #30
dewclin wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Returning back to the OT of surveillance and oversight, and as you're making this into a partisan issue, what would Labour do differently? "Authoritarian" concerns were expressed last time Labour was in government [1], and they're "seriously considering" resurrecting their policy of mandatory id cards if they get in power again [2]. And, before I get smeared as a "Tory"/"Brexiteer", I am not - I'm someone who remembe…

Lots of EU countries have ID cards, this is not something enabled by Brexit. I don't really get the dystopian angle to it either. Do countries with ID cards see them as authoritarian?

The UK's aversion to ID cards is weird as they are perfectly happy with HMRC having a database entry for them for example, so the government already has a record of everyone.

Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Post by sharperguy »

afavour wrote: post #19

This kind of thing was always my biggest worry going into Brexit. The country has to reimplement a ton of regulation and you know the government and its various hangers on won’t be able to resist “tweaking” every law and regulation to better favour them. Workers rights, human rights… it’s all up for negotiation now. By people who aren’t listening to you.

Could have been a great opportunity to try to actually improve things rather than adding loopholes for the benefit of special interests. Maybe with the right people in power that could still be achieved, but seems unlikely.
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