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Re: Severance payments at Wikimedia Foundation

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Is this some sort of scam? I don't understand why they would receive such huge amounts of money, for doing nothing other than choosing to leave their jobs. It seems especially bizarre for a non-profit organisation where the bulk of all the actual work is done freely by volunteers. What is actually going on here?

It seems to me that they have lots of cash available and are financially able to “do the right thing.” Firing people is not fun and is emotionally difficult. I would love to give 1.5x salary but there’s usually some controller restricting me to something I don’t like but can’t change. Wikimedia doesn’t have a duty to maximize shareholder equity and they have tons of money, so they can. I wonder what else they spend s…

Were they fired, made redundant, or otherwise "let go"? My assumption is that severance is only paid under such circumstances, but, as the grandparent poster points out, the linked article makes it sound like they chose to leave for new jobs.

Re: Severance payments at Wikimedia Foundation

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Man, I've been fired by for-profit companies and felt lucky to get four weeks severance. It's upsetting that people working for a non-profit are getting 1.5x their salary, but I guess this is kind of what we get for believing that a non-profit is going to act better than an evil corporation.

While I think Wikipedia is highly suspect given its ample reserves and continued begging, it should not be upsetting for you. It should bring you joy that someone got treated well.

Re: Severance payments at Wikimedia Foundation

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What concerns me more is Wikimedia Foundation was apparently until recently led by someone now on the payroll of Atlantic Council and U.S. Department of State. Must have done wonders to neutrality at Wikipedia.

I don’t understand. What job could someone take after leaving that post that you think would be neutral? Work for google? Become a bricklayer?

Re: Severance payments at Wikimedia Foundation

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Just take a look at this graph. The salaries have been bloating whilst hosting expenses are flat and plummeting as a proportion of all expenses. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation#/media/Fi... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation#/media/Fi... Net assets are sitting at ~$240M about 10x what they were a decade ago. Yet they roll out a sob-story banner on every page insinuating that they mi…

> I hope they're politically neutral.

Wikipedia is definitely not.

Re: Severance payments at Wikimedia Foundation

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Utterly unacceptable for a nonprofit allegedly serving the greater good. Disgusting to beg for "just even a single dollar" as they do on meraphorical hands and knees, with plea after tortured, heartfelt plea from Jimmy Wales whilst doing this on the back-end. I already knew about how flush for cash the Wikimedia Foundation was, but this really is astonishing behavior.

They beg for a single dollar to satisfy the public support test. This requires that a third of their funding must come from small dollar donors. I wouldn't give Wikimedia a dollar (mission creep, etc.) asking for piddling amounts isn't necessarily pleading poverty.

Re: Severance payments at Wikimedia Foundation

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They aren't the ones bringing the value. It's the volunteers, which don't get a penny. They have received enough money to sustain Wikipedia almost indefinitely, I have no idea why they are still begging for money. I haven't heard of a single thing that's good excuse for that money in years.

And a corollary would be saying that GitHub deserve money because otherwise there would be no open source.

Wikipedia's code and data is open source, even if they somehow ran out of cash for hosting, which would never happen, people could easily set it up again. And they obviously would. I would donate directly to the people doing the actual contributions, not to the joke "non profit" that's getting all the credit.

Re: Severance payments at Wikimedia Foundation

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Man, I've been fired by for-profit companies and felt lucky to get four weeks severance. It's upsetting that people working for a non-profit are getting 1.5x their salary, but I guess this is kind of what we get for believing that a non-profit is going to act better than an evil corporation.

Its not so much about non-profit vs evil-for-profit. Once certain people from certain money-cultures enter management of a for-profit, it is going to hell. Sure, they will give the speeches which are expected, promising to the lowly contributors that everything will stay cozy and nice. I guess vampire-management is a good word?

Re: Severance payments at Wikimedia Foundation

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How exactly does Wikipedia make its money? Is it exclusively through donors? If so, who are the top donors?

The donations go to the parent org (Wikimedia) and the top donors are published in the financial reports. https://wikimediafoundation.org/about/annualreport/2021-annu...

It's mostly corporations but a lot of them are employee matching schemes.

Re: Severance payments at Wikimedia Foundation

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What concerns me more is Wikimedia Foundation was apparently until recently led by someone now on the payroll of Atlantic Council and U.S. Department of State. Must have done wonders to neutrality at Wikipedia.

I don’t understand. What job could someone take after leaving that post that you think would be neutral? Work for google? Become a bricklayer?

I can think of very few jobs less neutral than Atlantic Council and U.S. Department of State. You don’t get invited to those boards without prior connections to some of the least neutral people on the planet.
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