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Re: Noise is all around us

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Post by jimmytidey »

In suburban London and the surrounding countryside, so much of the noise is caused by a handful of motorbikes that have been made deliberately, I think usually illegally, noisy.

Stopping noisy vehicles would improve millions of people's lives and moderately upset a few thousand bikers.

I have no idea why it isn't a more popular cause.

One person doing laps of a built up area in their modified car is likely waking up tens of thousands of people. The police do nothing. If you had a party that caused equivalent nuisance it would be shut down instantly.

Re: Noise is all around us

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Post by mise_en_place »

jimmytidey wrote: post #111

In suburban London and the surrounding countryside, so much of the noise is caused by a handful of motorbikes that have been made deliberately, I think usually illegally, noisy. Stopping noisy vehicles would improve millions of people's lives and moderately upset a few thousand bikers. I have no idea why it isn't a more popular cause. One person doing laps of a built up area in their modified car is likely waking up…

Engine noise is due to fuel injection. Not sure how that’s illegal.

Re: Noise is all around us

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Post by RivieraKid »

mise_en_place wrote: post #112
jimmytidey wrote: post #111

In suburban London and the surrounding countryside, so much of the noise is caused by a handful of motorbikes that have been made deliberately, I think usually illegally, noisy. Stopping noisy vehicles would improve millions of people's lives and moderately upset a few thousand bikers. I have no idea why it isn't a more popular cause. One person doing laps of a built up area in their modified car is likely waking up…

Engine noise is due to fuel injection. Not sure how that’s illegal.

You missed the point.

Re: Noise is all around us

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Post by smegsicle »

clove wrote: post #93
btbuildem wrote: post #92

Whomever cracks the room- or dwelling-sized noise cancellation (think Bose headphones but a bubble for your house) would deserve the Nobel peace prize.

How would that work?

thats easy- just take whats on the outside of one of those silent black helicopters and put it inside your house

Re: Noise is all around us

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Post by mise_en_place »

RivieraKid wrote: post #113
mise_en_place wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Engine noise is due to fuel injection. Not sure how that’s illegal.

You missed the point.

You can call out hooliganism or whatever the bad behavior is without making ridiculous claims about how engine noise is somehow illegal. That not only detracts from the point, it makes the poster look sort of ridiculous.

Re: Noise is all around us

#116

Post by CrampusDestrus »

mise_en_place wrote: post #112
jimmytidey wrote: post #111

In suburban London and the surrounding countryside, so much of the noise is caused by a handful of motorbikes that have been made deliberately, I think usually illegally, noisy. Stopping noisy vehicles would improve millions of people's lives and moderately upset a few thousand bikers. I have no idea why it isn't a more popular cause. One person doing laps of a built up area in their modified car is likely waking up…

Engine noise is due to fuel injection. Not sure how that’s illegal.

We have been able to make very quiet engines for decades, noisy ones only exist to please people who need to feel the power of their car

Re: Noise is all around us

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Post by ycombinete »

mise_en_place wrote: post #112
jimmytidey wrote: post #111

In suburban London and the surrounding countryside, so much of the noise is caused by a handful of motorbikes that have been made deliberately, I think usually illegally, noisy. Stopping noisy vehicles would improve millions of people's lives and moderately upset a few thousand bikers. I have no idea why it isn't a more popular cause. One person doing laps of a built up area in their modified car is likely waking up…

Engine noise is due to fuel injection. Not sure how that’s illegal.

He’s not talking about engine noise. He’s talking about illegally modified exhaust mufflers etc. that are much louder than they should be.

Re: Noise is all around us

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Post by jimmytidey »

mise_en_place wrote: post #112
jimmytidey wrote: post #111

In suburban London and the surrounding countryside, so much of the noise is caused by a handful of motorbikes that have been made deliberately, I think usually illegally, noisy. Stopping noisy vehicles would improve millions of people's lives and moderately upset a few thousand bikers. I have no idea why it isn't a more popular cause. One person doing laps of a built up area in their modified car is likely waking up…

Engine noise is due to fuel injection. Not sure how that’s illegal.

No doubt engine noise is caused by lots of factors. You can modify they exhaust to make it louder or quieter. I understand a lot of bikers modify their exhaust to make it louder.

As I understand it, there is a legal limit on noise emissions some for vehicles. To get round this bikes are supplied with a quiet exhaust and a second loud exhaust. They tell customers the loud exhaust is for use on private race tracks but obviously this is widely ignored.

Re: Noise is all around us

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Post by jimmytidey »

mise_en_place wrote: post #115
RivieraKid wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You missed the point.

You can call out hooliganism or whatever the bad behavior is without making ridiculous claims about how engine noise is somehow illegal. That not only detracts from the point, it makes the poster look sort of ridiculous.

There are legal standards for both vehicle noise and vehicle emissions, at least in the UK. When owners modify their exhaust to make them noisier, they are likely breaching one or both standards. It is specifically illegal. https://www.gov.uk/noise-pollution-road-train-plane#:~:text=....

Re: Noise is all around us

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Post by dan-robertson »

jimmytidey wrote: post #111

In suburban London and the surrounding countryside, so much of the noise is caused by a handful of motorbikes that have been made deliberately, I think usually illegally, noisy. Stopping noisy vehicles would improve millions of people's lives and moderately upset a few thousand bikers. I have no idea why it isn't a more popular cause. One person doing laps of a built up area in their modified car is likely waking up…

I think there’s often a belief that louder motorcycles are safer because cars will be more likely to notice them.

Though I think the small cheap engines in scoters or small bikes are loud because making them quieter would be more expensive.

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