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Poverty Is the 4th Leading Cause of Death in the US, Research Shows
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Re: Poverty Is the 4th Leading Cause of Death in the US, Research Shows
#42Are the first 3 causes dying, aging, and poor health? As soon as you start allowing abstract concepts that contribute to a person's death to count as the cause of a person's death, this stops being an especially meaningful statistic. I'd much rather see a calculation of how many years of life are lost, an actually meaningful metric.
> I'd much rather see a calculation of how many years of life are lost, an actually meaningful metric.
It's only a google search away! Looks like the rich live about 10 years longer than the poor in the US. See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4866586/
Re: Poverty Is the 4th Leading Cause of Death in the US, Research Shows
#43Are the first 3 causes dying, aging, and poor health? As soon as you start allowing abstract concepts that contribute to a person's death to count as the cause of a person's death, this stops being an especially meaningful statistic. I'd much rather see a calculation of how many years of life are lost, an actually meaningful metric.
Common dreams is known for click bait stuff like this.
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#44Outrageous, runaway medical costs are the cause. Not poverty.
Seems really hard to peg any one factor as "the cause". How did you land on runaway medical costs?
i think its a bit strange to blame medical costs, such as expensive treatment X for serious disease/injury that didnt exist 30 years ago, as the cause of someones death, who would have been dead without that treatment.
the money involved in healthcare does bring up some interesting thoughts.
i remember hearing that the "war on poverty" didnt impact poverty rates because govt guidlines dont factor in gov't social services such as $ amount of medicaid recieved, food stamps, etc.
so really the cause of death should include poverty + depending on X govt services, not either or
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#45Living is the 1st Leading Cause of Death in the US Research published this week estimated that life was linked to at least 100% of the deaths in the United States in 2019 among people aged 0 or older, making living the nation's number one leading mortality driver that year.
3rd iteration of that joke on this thread.
Re: Poverty Is the 4th Leading Cause of Death in the US, Research Shows
#46There's probably lots of data everywhere but here is "Poverty rates in OECD countries as of 2021" to compare where the US sits against other countries:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/233910/poverty-rates-in-...
They're probably using the ~6.85$ a day ("upper middle income poverty line") https://ourworldindata.org/poverty
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#47"Poverty, which the study defined as less than half the median U.S. income" I wonder how much of this can be attributed to medical bankruptcy. If you cannot afford insurance, get injured, can't afford treatment...pretty straightforward doom loop to an early grave
Considering 41 out of 50 states have expanded Medicaid to include people up to include adults up to 138% of federal poverty level, and Medicaid has very low out of pocket costs, I'd argue that the very poor actually have better medical insurance than middle class people in the US.
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#48Are the first 3 causes dying, aging, and poor health? As soon as you start allowing abstract concepts that contribute to a person's death to count as the cause of a person's death, this stops being an especially meaningful statistic. I'd much rather see a calculation of how many years of life are lost, an actually meaningful metric.
I’m not knowledgeable enough about this to have an opinion. But isn’t it valid to say that someone died from AIDS even if actual cause of death is pneumonia? If the underlying factor is very strong can’t that be seen as the cause of death?
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I wonder how much of this can be attributed to medical bankruptcy. Only 4% of US bankruptcies are because of medical bills https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2018/0... >. A tipoff that [insert large percentage here] of bankruptcies aren't actually because of medical costs is that only 6% of bankruptcies by those without health insurance are because of that cause. The biggest cause of bankruptcies…
> Only 4% of US bankruptcies are because of medical bills That's not 'only'. In quite a few other countries that percentage is zero.
Such as?
In Canada, with universal healthcare that cost $0 at the point of care, bankruptcies due to health issues is actually pretty high (15% for seniors).
Why? Because a big driver of medical bankruptcy is not the medical costs, but the fact you can no longer work and any assistance you get doesn't cover your cost of living.
Re: Poverty Is the 4th Leading Cause of Death in the US, Research Shows
#50Are the first 3 causes dying, aging, and poor health? As soon as you start allowing abstract concepts that contribute to a person's death to count as the cause of a person's death, this stops being an especially meaningful statistic. I'd much rather see a calculation of how many years of life are lost, an actually meaningful metric.
> I'd much rather see a calculation of how many years of life are lost, an actually meaningful metric. It's only a google search away! Looks like the rich live about 10 years longer than the poor in the US. See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4866586/
> Looks like the rich live about 10 years longer than the poor
At the extremes. The “gap in life expectancy between the richest 1% and poorest 1% of individuals was 14.6 years (95% CI, 14.4 to 14.8 years) for men and 10.1 years (95% CI, 9.9 to 10.3 years) for women.” More troubling, between 2001 and 2014 “life expectancy increased by 2.34 years for men and 2.91 years for women in the top 5% of the income distribution, but increased by only 0.32 years for men and 0.04 years for women in the bottom 5%.”