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Same Stop: Life after 26 years as a programmer for Apple

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Re: Same Stop: Life after 26 years as a programmer for Apple

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I can totally relate to this. I find myself forcing my attention away from programming to do other work. Programming is like an infinite game.

OOC, what do you program so much? I usually don't program after work, not because I don't want to, but because I don't have anything to build.

Re: Same Stop: Life after 26 years as a programmer for Apple

#12
> I’m not sure if that is a good thing. I am back to coding late into the night, and back at it after coffee and an English muffin the following morning (thankfully though I quit the cigarettes decades ago).

*sigh* It's 5AM and I'm out of coffee and cigarettes. At least I found a stupid bug tonight.

Re: Same Stop: Life after 26 years as a programmer for Apple

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> The respite from programming though lasted maybe about four months after retiring. I started a small project , in part to learn Python, in part to play with e-ink displays. I was back programming (back abusing git) but of course the pressure was off. It both was and wasn’t like the day job I had left behind. This is one reasons I got disillusioned with FIRE and the concept of early retirement. Programming was my fi…

“ I want to work in a small team with a good product vision and a . strong shipping culture.”

That’s really hard to find. Especially if you still want to work regular hours

Re: Same Stop: Life after 26 years as a programmer for Apple

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t really follow you. This roughly implies everyone is addicted to their jobs…

Or more like the paycheck is an enabler for an unhealthy escape

Seems like an extremely unrealistic representation of people's motivations to work, to me.

Re: Same Stop: Life after 26 years as a programmer for Apple

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> The respite from programming though lasted maybe about four months after retiring. I started a small project , in part to learn Python, in part to play with e-ink displays. I was back programming (back abusing git) but of course the pressure was off. It both was and wasn’t like the day job I had left behind. This is one reasons I got disillusioned with FIRE and the concept of early retirement. Programming was my fi…

Speaking as someone planning to "retire" very soon, I don't like that word at all. I'm hardly planning to move to Florida for wife swapping and pickleball with the other oldsters. I'll be doing whatever suits my fancy, including software, albeit sans Jira and keeping GoogSoft suits happy with the proper newspeak.

Re: Same Stop: Life after 26 years as a programmer for Apple

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> The respite from programming though lasted maybe about four months after retiring. I started a small project , in part to learn Python, in part to play with e-ink displays. I was back programming (back abusing git) but of course the pressure was off. It both was and wasn’t like the day job I had left behind. This is one reasons I got disillusioned with FIRE and the concept of early retirement. Programming was my fi…

The point of retirement is that you’re free to do whatever you want. I still love programming but having to do it every weekday saps my creativity and muddles it with corporate bs. I have easily a 100 projects I would work on if I had the time and energy that could be freed by my day job

Re: Same Stop: Life after 26 years as a programmer for Apple

#18
I once had a PM who told me coding was just a stepping stone to them in their career. I couldn’t understand, I thought they must not have been a “natural” like me.

Fast forward a few years, after taking on more mentorship roles, then staff responsibilities, then slipping into project oversight roles… She was so right. Coding was a great stepping stone.

Several years ago my father got promoted to some leadership role. In our conversation about it, he told me he had asked to get back closer tech, but his boss declined and said tech specialists are a dime a dozen. Technical leadership is very expensive to find though, and once you find one you don’t let them go back to the production line.

I still occasionally answer an SO question or make a few commits on personal pet projects, but lately I’m just as likely to go fishing instead or make edits to OpenStreetMap.

Programming really is a special kind of career. I can’t imagine making it the only one I ever tried though.

Re: Same Stop: Life after 26 years as a programmer for Apple

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> The respite from programming though lasted maybe about four months after retiring. I started a small project , in part to learn Python, in part to play with e-ink displays. I was back programming (back abusing git) but of course the pressure was off. It both was and wasn’t like the day job I had left behind. This is one reasons I got disillusioned with FIRE and the concept of early retirement. Programming was my fi…

I'm glad I found programming. I'm not sure I would have been very successful at anything else as a career. But the day I retire will be the last line of code I write. I'm planning to have as little involvement with computers as I can after that.

Re: Same Stop: Life after 26 years as a programmer for Apple

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> in the same way we expect that a retired doctor probably stops performing surgeries and begins to spend more time on the golf course.

My father is a retired doctor. I’ve never known him to play golf, but he works 60 hours a week in the emergency room of the clinic on the local Indian reservation. He claims only working 60 hours a week is retirement for a doctor.

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