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The end of the accounting search

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Re: The end of the accounting search

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My aunt was an accountant (rip). She had one of those "not calculators" with a built-in printer. Not sure what they are properly called. Her "not calculator" was old, stained with cigarette smoke and coffee and she did not wish for a new one. I got paid a bit a few times to clean it up inside and out. The thing was a tank. (If it still exists, it should still work with a bit of care and attention.) She used some form…

Adding machine, perhaps?

Re: The end of the accounting search

#122

I'm a QuickBooks ProAdvisor and have been one for over 20 years and the last few years has convinced me that Intuit is determined to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs by: 1) Forcing all their customers to migrate to the online version of their program. Many of the clients I've spoken to were happy with and preferred the Desktop version. The Desktop version is faster and can do more than the online version. 2)…

Most users and companies I've encountered want to remain on the desktop version. Its faster, gives them more functionality, its under their control and if they want they can pay or not pay maintenance fee. But the software firms are obsessed with the cloud and so are the heads of the Finance teams, they think it makes them look technically knowledgeable to move to the cloud so this pincer movement is forcing the everyday users onto something they dont want or need. Any cost savings disappear in rapidly rising yearly subs, but by then the people that forced the move are gone and everyone's lumbered with an expensive, clunky restrictive finance system.

Re: The end of the accounting search

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post #72

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Genuine question: do you find there is creativity and the satisfaction of creating something from nothing in accounting work? It has always seemed so dull from the outside looking in (cue the joes about accountants) but is this the reality? Many people don’t see software engineering as creative but it certainly can be!

My sister is an accountant and she genuinely enjoys working with the numbers. She finds it, not exactly fun, but kind of fun? She describes it like every situation is a puzzle she gets to solve, and then maintain. She also likes working with her customers and enjoys those interactions, like she gets a good feeling from helping her customers out. That's enough for her. Not the vocation for me but it's very interesting…

Note your sister doesn't just work with "numbers". She works with a structure of interrelated accounts. In a sense she is working with the structure of the business. She is observing the business-process which is a bit like looking at a simulation.

Re: The end of the accounting search

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> just using excel because it won’t change on them. Are your accounting people quite young? Excel moves and changes stuff, though not on quite such an aggressive timeline. Modern Office is not like 1990s Office where you buy it and then it doesn't change unless you decide to change it. This is fine, the universe's one constant is change, if we fight it we'll lose, but it's worth calling out that there will be change,…

> Are your accounting people quite young? Excel moves and changes stuff, though not on quite such an aggressive timeline. Excel UI interface changes but it won't change your spreadsheet content, which is the core functionality Excel users care about. I've been using 15 year old .xlsx files with no issues across Excel 2007, to 2021, and Excel online. I've seen companies using files with an absurd amount of worksheets…

Not at the same speed as SaaS software. Jira seems to change every five minutes.

Re: The end of the accounting search

#125
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> just using excel because it won’t change on them. Are your accounting people quite young? Excel moves and changes stuff, though not on quite such an aggressive timeline. Modern Office is not like 1990s Office where you buy it and then it doesn't change unless you decide to change it. This is fine, the universe's one constant is change, if we fight it we'll lose, but it's worth calling out that there will be change,…

They’re probably older, on the contrary, and are still using the non-subscription desktop version instead of Microsoft 365.

Yes, everyone seems to be stuck on 2010.

Re: The end of the accounting search

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The thing that pisses off the accounting people where I work is how often everything changes. They’re one step from just using excel because it won’t change on them.

I’m a business owner and use Quickbooks online and a couple years ago they just flat out changed how they calculated taxes. When I reported the bug they just kept repeating how I could completely change my process to make it work, like they had released some new feature. But they really just broke shit, and refused to ever acknowledge it. There’s no way I was the only person reporting this. They obviously don’t care

Was this in reference to payroll tax, cause I also got screwed on that from them. I paid for payroll but they didn't file any papers. They paid everything but never ever filed a 940 or 941. By the time government speed came around and the IRS notified me I was delinquent for 2 years. I ended paying 2-3k in fees, dropped there payroll that day. But sadly still suffer through their accounting.

Re: The end of the accounting search

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post #18

I use beancount for my personal finances and Odoo as well as ERPnext for my company. ERPnext is my favourite while Odoo currently supports the taxation in my country (Germany) a bit better...

Any tips for getting ERPNext up and running? I just spent a weekend of yak-shaving, and I get to the point where nginx is routing my requests to the “bench start” process, but refuses to serve a page.

Frappe Cloud is by far the easiest way to run an ERPNext instance if you're okay with shared hosting. It's a Frappe framework-based app hosting service from the developers of ERPNext and it supports data file imports from other instances of ERPNext:

- Frappe Cloud: https://frappecloud.com

In addition to the Frappe Bench setup process, Frappe provides instructions for self-hosting ERPNext with Docker and Kubernetes:

- Docker: https://github.com/frappe/frappe_docker

- Kubernetes: https://helm.erpnext.com

There's also a third-party Docker image from pipech that's easier to setup, but it's not always up to date:

- Third-party Docker (pipech): https://hub.docker.com/r/pipech/erpnext-docker-debian

Bitnami packages ERPNext in single-tier (AWS, Azure, or GCP) and virtual machine (local computer) offerings:

- Bitnami: https://bitnami.com/stack/erpnext

To anyone reading this, if you only need software for accounting and not an entire enterprise resource planning (ERP) suite, do yourself a favor and follow the advice in TFA to use GnuCash.

Re: The end of the accounting search

#128

I'm a QuickBooks ProAdvisor and have been one for over 20 years and the last few years has convinced me that Intuit is determined to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs by: 1) Forcing all their customers to migrate to the online version of their program. Many of the clients I've spoken to were happy with and preferred the Desktop version. The Desktop version is faster and can do more than the online version. 2)…

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Re: The end of the accounting search

#129

I'm a QuickBooks ProAdvisor and have been one for over 20 years and the last few years has convinced me that Intuit is determined to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs by: 1) Forcing all their customers to migrate to the online version of their program. Many of the clients I've spoken to were happy with and preferred the Desktop version. The Desktop version is faster and can do more than the online version. 2)…

Xero do a similar pricing thing. I have to pay for the $100 a month plan to get multi currencies because I contract to an overseas company. The standard plan which has everything I need but that is 1/3 the price.

Re: The end of the accounting search

#130

I'm a QuickBooks ProAdvisor and have been one for over 20 years and the last few years has convinced me that Intuit is determined to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs by: 1) Forcing all their customers to migrate to the online version of their program. Many of the clients I've spoken to were happy with and preferred the Desktop version. The Desktop version is faster and can do more than the online version. 2)…

Genuine question: do you find there is creativity and the satisfaction of creating something from nothing in accounting work? It has always seemed so dull from the outside looking in (cue the joes about accountants) but is this the reality? Many people don’t see software engineering as creative but it certainly can be!

It is boring, incredibly so. There's no real creativity involved unless you're trying to stretch the rules capture a transaction in a certain way or make it look like you're doing something you're not really. Its not fun and at some point you become aware of what you're doing and you quickly supress the memory in the deepest part of your mind. Its a hugely usefull skill though that helps you with so many other things, like budgeting, raising finance, running a business, investing. The the profession itself is like being force fed cold porridge for eternity.
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