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Re: The end of the accounting search

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Post by rvba »

tialaramex wrote: post #19
bombcar wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing that pisses off the accounting people where I work is how often everything changes. They’re one step from just using excel because it won’t change on them.

> just using excel because it won’t change on them. Are your accounting people quite young? Excel moves and changes stuff, though not on quite such an aggressive timeline. Modern Office is not like 1990s Office where you buy it and then it doesn't change unless you decide to change it. This is fine, the universe's one constant is change, if we fight it we'll lose, but it's worth calling out that there will be change,…

Many companies have tons of desginers who need to prove they are needed, so they force change for the sake of change - at the cost of users.

Re: The end of the accounting search

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Post by TrueSlacker0 »

axiomdata316 wrote: post #5

I'm a QuickBooks ProAdvisor and have been one for over 20 years and the last few years has convinced me that Intuit is determined to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs by: 1) Forcing all their customers to migrate to the online version of their program. Many of the clients I've spoken to were happy with and preferred the Desktop version. The Desktop version is faster and can do more than the online version. 2)…

Point 2 is driving me crazy. Everything moved to places that now seem illogical.

Re: The end of the accounting search

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Post by asah »

"Getting our QuickBooks data into GnuCash took a bit of scripting using the capable (if poorly documented) Python bindings."

I wonder if LLMs can help with these gaps in documentation and examples?

Re: The end of the accounting search

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Post by andai »

rvba wrote: post #21
tialaramex wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> just using excel because it won’t change on them. Are your accounting people quite young? Excel moves and changes stuff, though not on quite such an aggressive timeline. Modern Office is not like 1990s Office where you buy it and then it doesn't change unless you decide to change it. This is fine, the universe's one constant is change, if we fight it we'll lose, but it's worth calling out that there will be change,…

Many companies have tons of desginers who need to prove they are needed, so they force change for the sake of change - at the cost of users.

It might be like the thing at Google, where people want to get promoted and big changes or new launches are the only way up, regardless of the effect on user experience.

Re: The end of the accounting search

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Post by reaperducer »

axiomdata316 wrote: post #5

I'm a QuickBooks ProAdvisor and have been one for over 20 years and the last few years has convinced me that Intuit is determined to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs by: 1) Forcing all their customers to migrate to the online version of their program. Many of the clients I've spoken to were happy with and preferred the Desktop version. The Desktop version is faster and can do more than the online version. 2)…

last few years has convinced me that Intuit is determined to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs by:

Is that you, Arlene?

Seriously, everything you list (and more) are things my accountant complains about. You're not alone in being a QuickBooks insider who hates QuickBooks and would love to move their clients onto something else.

Re: The end of the accounting search

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Post by dboreham »

electroly wrote: post #6

It's not true that Intuit discontinued support for the desktop version. Where did they get that idea? It's a subscription, yes, but the desktop version is alive and well. I WISH they would kill it so I could force my own users to upgrade to the online edition but no, it hasn't happened yet. We just upgraded to QuickBooks Desktop 2023.

As a business owner and software developer I'm extremely reluctant to host mission critical and sensitive data with a provider like intuit. This is why we use desktop QB.

Re: The end of the accounting search

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Post by reaperducer »

asah wrote: post #23

"Getting our QuickBooks data into GnuCash took a bit of scripting using the capable (if poorly documented) Python bindings." I wonder if LLMs can help with these gaps in documentation and examples?

I wonder if LLMs can help with these gaps in documentation and examples?

I wonder if LLMs can do someone's taxes.

But I'm not going to be the first to try it.

Re: The end of the accounting search

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Post by onedognight »

GnuCash may not support concurrent users, but it does support concurrent programmers as its XML config files can be checked into git. From my programmer perspective, revision-controlled accounting makes sense. You can fix bugs and change names, merge and split accounts, all with history, comments and easy reversion. And unlike with h?ledger, you have a nice GUI for managing most day to day tasks.

Re: The end of the accounting search

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Post by FredPret »

Wronnay wrote: post #18

I use beancount for my personal finances and Odoo as well as ERPnext for my company. ERPnext is my favourite while Odoo currently supports the taxation in my country (Germany) a bit better...

Any tips for getting ERPNext up and running? I just spent a weekend of yak-shaving, and I get to the point where nginx is routing my requests to the “bench start” process, but refuses to serve a page.
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