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The end of the accounting search

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Re: The end of the accounting search

#11

I'm a QuickBooks ProAdvisor and have been one for over 20 years and the last few years has convinced me that Intuit is determined to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs by: 1) Forcing all their customers to migrate to the online version of their program. Many of the clients I've spoken to were happy with and preferred the Desktop version. The Desktop version is faster and can do more than the online version. 2)…

The thing that pisses off the accounting people where I work is how often everything changes.

They’re one step from just using excel because it won’t change on them.

Re: The end of the accounting search

#13

I am strongly considering a switch to GnuCash, but not for the reasons in TFA. >Crashes were frequent; QuickBooks users know to make backups every few minutes to avoid losing work.[...] More recently, Intuit has discontinued support for the desktop version entirely in an effort to force all users to its online, paid-by-the-month service. Both of these statements are not true, based on both my professional and persona…

QB Enterprise uses Sybase internally, which is a sound choice, except they also do some kind of crazy file-locking over a SMB share, which can sometimes go wrong and cause issues. They scramble the login/password (and there are tools to do this computation so you can try to connect to the DB directly, but the schema is convoluted, and clearly decended from their old Dos/Win 3.1 roots), and then connect over the network to Sybase.

Network clients crashing can cause issues that are difficult to unwind. It should not be possible to get the database into a state where backups + verification fail if it was enforcing referential integrity, but that seems to be common.

The official tools to get yourself out of a pickle from Intuit are guesses at best. There is a cottage industry of people who will (for a great fee depending on how urgent it is), attempt to recover/correct the database for you, because they have experience peeking behind the curtain and building additional tools on the XML API.

Good luck if you are using EDI or other electronic document exchange with other customers, and you transmit sales order numbers for a few hundred orders in the morning, and then things go pear shaped and QB refuses to cooperate and open the file in the afternoon. Going back to last night's backup means carefully/manually re-ordering 4 hrs of work to make sure that everything lines up, so you're probably in for a late day.

Intuit "officially" supports a linux based server for QBE, but the community seems to thumb it's nose up at it, and offers no support for this configuration.

QB, for many years was a very good price for the SMB market. There was a LOT of pricing headroom to the next best accounting package. Someone @ intuit has figured that out over the last 10 years and they are ratcheting up the price till customers fall out -- figuring it's finally worth it to drop QB for another solution.

I'm aware of a migration from QB Enterprise to QB Online, that after signing up and paying, Intuit basically aborted the process. "Sorry, we don't support doing multiple tax rates for employees in multiple states in the QB Online version, here's your money back". Maybe they fix that eventually, but that's where it stood last year.

QB is a frustrating product, for the inertia it currently has.

Re: The end of the accounting search

#14

I am strongly considering a switch to GnuCash, but not for the reasons in TFA. >Crashes were frequent; QuickBooks users know to make backups every few minutes to avoid losing work.[...] More recently, Intuit has discontinued support for the desktop version entirely in an effort to force all users to its online, paid-by-the-month service. Both of these statements are not true, based on both my professional and persona…

QB Online works pretty well, I've used it for many years.

Intuit has an obvious disrespect for their customers - some important bugs have gone unfixed for years amid continual complaints, while the newbie support people suggest they be reported to Intuit!

I handle the accounting for a small non-profit. We need the ability to categorize our revenue and expense, which now requires the full QBO.

At $850 / year, the cost is out of line with our $30K / year revenue. But, I'm rather stuck because the organization needs to be able to transfer the work to another accountant if something happens to me, and GnuCash, ledger, hledger, etc. aren't well known. Also, we need the ability to accept payments from PayPal and Stripe without a lot of manual entry.

Re: The end of the accounting search

#15
The main issue towards adoption is the ease of fetching the transactions from various banks. Sure we can write some scripts to process the PDF files etc but it is still very manual compared to, e.g., allowing transaction query via REST api by granting users API keys.

Re: The end of the accounting search

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would people not go to Gnucash or Fresh books?

They are just not as good as QuickBooks and not many accountants are familiar with these other packages. The prices keep increasing but the QuickBooks online functionality is the best out there and it is the platform with which most other tools make sure to integrate.

Also, none of the open source alternatives support simultaneous multiuser access.

Users can slowly adapt, but most businesses larger than a sole proprietorship need multiuser capability.

Re: The end of the accounting search

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post #11

I'm a QuickBooks ProAdvisor and have been one for over 20 years and the last few years has convinced me that Intuit is determined to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs by: 1) Forcing all their customers to migrate to the online version of their program. Many of the clients I've spoken to were happy with and preferred the Desktop version. The Desktop version is faster and can do more than the online version. 2)…

The thing that pisses off the accounting people where I work is how often everything changes. They’re one step from just using excel because it won’t change on them.

> just using excel because it won’t change on them.

Are your accounting people quite young? Excel moves and changes stuff, though not on quite such an aggressive timeline. Modern Office is not like 1990s Office where you buy it and then it doesn't change unless you decide to change it.

This is fine, the universe's one constant is change, if we fight it we'll lose, but it's worth calling out that there will be change, just some of these outfits are taking the piss.

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