Ask HN: Is Moore's Law over, or not?

Post by thfuran » Sat, May 20, 2023, 11:58 PM UTC

btilly wrote: post #75

ascar wrote: post #36

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> but the timing for an individual single-threaded computation hasn't really improved in the last 15 years The clock speeds haven't really gone up anymore, but computations still got considerably faster. From an i7 2700k (2011) to an i7 13700k single core benchmark scores went up 131% https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-2700K-vs...

First, that's the kind of change we used to get in 2 years. Having it happen over a decade is barely noticeable compared to where we used to be. Second, over that time period we've had a lot of changes in tooling. Some make code faster. Most make code slower. (Examples include the spread of containerization, and adoption of slow languages like Python.) The result is that programs to do equivalent things might wind up…

Post by apmcduck » Sun, May 21, 2023, 6:27 AM UTC

ascar wrote: post #56

shjake wrote: post #47

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They might be putting themselves in a similar position as Intel though (maybe worse since I don’t recall Intel ever being as greedy..) if their competitors eventually catch up. Unlike in gaming in the data center initial cost + performance per watt are the only thing that really matter (besides software, Nvidia has a huge moat there..). And in relation to how much Nvidia is charging per GPU total power costs are clos…

> Unlike in gaming in the data center initial cost + performance per watt are the only thing that really matter That's not true from a hardware perspective either. You can't just plug in 4 worse cards in the same rack. The savings on the graphics cards become less significant if you need to double/quadruple all other hardware to increase the number of racks. A 1U blade can easily cost $10000 without a graphics card.