Cultured meat might not be that environmentap friendly
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#2It we ate real meat once or twice a month, we wouldn’t need this shit.
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#3Wait. So the latest VC-funded big business idea might not be so good for our environment and health?
What a shock.
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#4Cultured meat is all bullshit marketing until supermarkets at least sell simple tofu for less than chicken. It's just mashed-up beans, loads of water and a teaspoon of rock powder!
The Chinese supermarkets can do it, but in normal supermarkets, everything meat-free is positioned as a luxury rich-people thing. Organic this, handmade that, marinated the other. Hovering at £6 or £8 a kilo. Meanwhile the shelves next to it are groaning under endless kilos of chicken from £2.50 (1kg of legs at Tesco, was £2.15 until recently).
My tin-foil hat theory here is that they don't want to knock the bottom out of the meat-free market because they're hoping to replace cheap meat with expensive synthetic meat and not let on that it's a false dichotomy.
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#5It we ate real meat once or twice a month, we wouldn’t need this shit.
I mean technically you don't need any meat. There are plenty vegetarians doing just fine.
But in any case I would always prefer something natural. I.e. not fake meat and not lab grown meat.
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#6It we ate real meat once or twice a month, we wouldn’t need this shit.
I mean technically you don't need any meat. There are plenty vegetarians doing just fine. But in any case I would always prefer something natural. I.e. not fake meat and not lab grown meat.
Agree, but you don't need beer, either. Or wine, or chocolate, or ice cream etc.
If we decided to indulge in real meat once or twice a month, I meant.
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#7Cultured meat is all bullshit marketing until supermarkets at least sell simple tofu for less than chicken. It's just mashed-up beans, loads of water and a teaspoon of rock powder! The Chinese supermarkets can do it, but in normal supermarkets, everything meat-free is positioned as a luxury rich-people thing. Organic this, handmade that, marinated the other. Hovering at £6 or £8 a kilo. Meanwhile the shelves next to…
Not sure I would want to eat chicken that costs only £2.50 a kilo.
But again, if one ate chicken once a month, one could afford the real thing, and if most of us did the same, there would enough to go around without having to resort to industrial meat production.
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#8Cultured meat is all bullshit marketing until supermarkets at least sell simple tofu for less than chicken. It's just mashed-up beans, loads of water and a teaspoon of rock powder! The Chinese supermarkets can do it, but in normal supermarkets, everything meat-free is positioned as a luxury rich-people thing. Organic this, handmade that, marinated the other. Hovering at £6 or £8 a kilo. Meanwhile the shelves next to…
Not sure I would want to eat chicken that costs only £2.50 a kilo. But again, if one ate chicken once a month, one could afford the real thing, and if most of us did the same, there would enough to go around without having to resort to industrial meat production.
90% of the Tesco chicken is that same meat. The packs with the skinned breasts cost (much) more than bone-in, skin-on legs, but they come from the same chickens.
There's a tiny (like half a chiller's worth, relative to nearly a whole aisle) amount of "nice" chicken, which is where I would intuitively expect a chicken's cost to be: about £10-15 a bird.
And this's exactly my point. People won't eat something like tofu if it costs 3 times what chicken can cost them, unless they actually want to eat tofu specifically (which I do, but I also baulk at the supermarket price, since I can get it for under half the price in a Chinese supermarket and in a bigger pack).
Which is then a vicious cycle because people won't buy it to try, and won't learn how to cook it (which can take a little experimentation if you didn't grow up with it) because why would they?
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#9Cultured meat is all bullshit marketing until supermarkets at least sell simple tofu for less than chicken. It's just mashed-up beans, loads of water and a teaspoon of rock powder! The Chinese supermarkets can do it, but in normal supermarkets, everything meat-free is positioned as a luxury rich-people thing. Organic this, handmade that, marinated the other. Hovering at £6 or £8 a kilo. Meanwhile the shelves next to…
To invoke soy's pricing in the Western world (let alone the UK) and not also acknowledge that it contains phytoestrogens is disingenuous because this affects the pricing of it due to volume sold. Aside from tofu causing me intolerable heartburn, I also wouldn't eat it because of the phytoestrogens.
Quorn vegetarian mince is cheap, no hormones, antibiotics or fat. Real low-fat meat mince is £1 more per kg than Quorn mince. No soy either, it's mycoprotein.
Do we need cultured meat when Quorn is satisfactory for most people who don't eat meat for whatever reason?
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#10It we ate real meat once or twice a month, we wouldn’t need this shit.
> real meat
Keep in mind that many people have ethical issues with killing animals for food. They can certainly switch to eating plants, but many won't. "fake meat" is the bridge they need to align their actions with their morals.