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Getting Stuff Done by Not Being Mean to Yourself (2010)

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Re: Getting Stuff Done by Not Being Mean to Yourself (2010)

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> I will rise at 5. Meditate, 530-630. Journal 630-730. Breakfast 8-9, that is very ambitious if not pathologically ambitious. > Yesterday, I finally realized ... But I suggest ... s/he has been failing up until the previous day and is already giving public advice about how to do it better? that's not just questionable, it also shows a lack of self-reflection and unhealthy levels of impulsiveness. if that text wasn't…

>> I will rise at 5. Meditate, 530-630. Journal 630-730. Breakfast 8-9,

> that is very ambitious if not pathologically ambitious.

I guess that's what many parents are then? Meditating in the morning is one thing, for an hour, everyone can find their window. Same goes for an hour of journaling, and an hour of eating breakfast. The steps are OK, but the duration might be different for me.

I'm a life long night owl, now morning miracling. It's different, waking up that early feels like still being up before anyone is like late at night, plus a clearer head from a full sleep cycle.

Sometimes you accidentally fall asleep at 9, and wake up at 3-4 without issue.

I think I'm about to join the 5 am gym club, I don't even know who I am any more. That's the fun of continuing to discover things that weren't thought of as a possibility.

Re: Getting Stuff Done by Not Being Mean to Yourself (2010)

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> I will rise at 5. Meditate, 530-630. Journal 630-730. Breakfast 8-9, that is very ambitious if not pathologically ambitious. > Yesterday, I finally realized ... But I suggest ... s/he has been failing up until the previous day and is already giving public advice about how to do it better? that's not just questionable, it also shows a lack of self-reflection and unhealthy levels of impulsiveness. if that text wasn't…

>> I will rise at 5. Meditate, 530-630. Journal 630-730. Breakfast 8-9,

> that is very ambitious if not pathologically ambitious.

While that was an example of trying to do too much, waking up that early isn't super uncommon - I guess that's what many parents are then?

Cultivating a healthy and positive inner dialogue is super important. No one is coming to help you to a greater degree than you picking yourself up and learning to treat yourself with care by being a friend to yourself. This is much different than being too self-involved.,

Meditating in the morning is one thing, for an hour, everyone can find their window. Same goes for an hour of journaling, and an hour of eating breakfast. The steps are OK, and leave room to add more in.

I'm a life long night owl, now morning miracling. It's different, waking up that early feels like still being up before anyone is like late at night, plus a clearer head from a full sleep cycle.

Sometimes you accidentally fall asleep at 9, and wake up at 3-4 without issue.

I think I'm about to join the 5 am gym club, I don't even know who I am any more. That's the fun of continuing to discover things that weren't thought of as a possibility.

Re: Getting Stuff Done by Not Being Mean to Yourself (2010)

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> Yesterday, I finally realized that this method would never, ever work. I was shocked. But it never, ever has. I’ve been after myself on this score for, what, like ten years? Had it ever worked once in that time, I asked myself. No! I had a similar realisation a few years ago. I used to try to come up with side project ideas by sitting down with a piece of paper and writing down every idea I could think of. Then, I’…

>> writing down every idea I could think of. Then, I’d decide which of these ideas seemed in the realm of possibility for me

This has actually worked well for me in the past, but the trick for me was to wait at least a month after an idea was written down before starting on it.

Basically, while working on one thing, I would jot all my 'newer and better' ideas into a journal so that I could finish the current thing. After finishing the current thing I would read through my journal to decide what to start next, realizing that most of the ideas I had written down were pretty lame.

The delay in time saved me from starting work on things that I would have abandoned soon after (albeit for good reason) and I developed more confidence and determination in finishing the things I started, since those ideas had proven themselves over the others.

Another approach I take is to breakdown a large task into smaller tasks that I can complete in less than one or two hours since I deal with a lot of interruptions during the day. This allows me to recognize my progress on a task and makes it easier to remember the state of things at any particular stopping point.

Re: Getting Stuff Done by Not Being Mean to Yourself (2010)

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post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's my impression that a lot of life coaches sell a strategy that they themselves didn't really explore and verify and then basically use their customers and recipients to convince themselves that they know what they are talking about.

It's a variant of the classic book "how to make a million dollars" which contains the advice "sell a book giving instructions on how to make a million dollars by selling a book about the same". Here it's read life advice on the internet to be able to get stuff done to promote life advice on the internet.

i'm actually referring to something a bit different. i observed that many people seem to act especially preachy about certain opinions they objectively can't be truly convinced of (yet). my interpretation is that they actually preach to themselves to convince themselves.

Re: Getting Stuff Done by Not Being Mean to Yourself (2010)

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I used to hate that I could never stick to things. I'd set a schedule for myself, feel good while I was on it, and then I'd fall off and go back to hating myself.

One day I was making nasty fun of myself for being really good at starting things, and something clicked. "Sticking to" something is functionally same as starting it over and over again. Which I'm good at. Am I ever going to stop starting to work out? No. My only problem is that sometimes there's a significant interval between "stopping" and "starting." What am I doing during those intervals? Hating myself on one hand and also trying to whip up irrational confidence that the next time I start will be the time I actually stick with a schedule. I could dispense with those things and reduce the interval.

It turns out I can reduce the interval between starting and stopping to basically nothing.

This approach isn't systematic enough to produce amazing results, but I'm happy to now be working out 3-4 times per week, and more importantly, I'm happy that if I miss a few workouts, I'm back to normal right away instead of spending weeks or months licking my wounds.

Later I made a connection to how people say that great athletes have short memories, in the sense that success and failure don't leave a lasting emotional mark on them. When a great athlete completes a difficult pass or gets it slightly wrong, strikes out or hits a home run, hits a shot or misses it, they process the information, but any sense of triumph or failure has to be gone in seconds by necessity because it can't be allowed to affect the next shot they take.

I apply that attitude to a lot of my daily life. I'll have time to feel proud or downcast after the game is over. Right now I have to take my next shot.

For me, I feel like that's a better emotional cadence. I don't instantly drop the judgment hammer on myself for a mistake. Not only does that stop knee-jerk emotions from wrecking my subsequent decisions, but my reactions at the end of the day are usually more moderate, thoughtful, and productive.

Re: Getting Stuff Done by Not Being Mean to Yourself (2010)

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post #52

> I will rise at 5. Meditate, 530-630. Journal 630-730. Breakfast 8-9, that is very ambitious if not pathologically ambitious. > Yesterday, I finally realized ... But I suggest ... s/he has been failing up until the previous day and is already giving public advice about how to do it better? that's not just questionable, it also shows a lack of self-reflection and unhealthy levels of impulsiveness. if that text wasn't…

>> I will rise at 5. Meditate, 530-630. Journal 630-730. Breakfast 8-9, > that is very ambitious if not pathologically ambitious. While that was an example of trying to do too much, waking up that early isn't super uncommon - I guess that's what many parents are then? Cultivating a healthy and positive inner dialogue is super important. No one is coming to help you to a greater degree than you picking yourself up and…

Any tips for other night owls that helped you be able to make the shift to mornings? I'm being forced awake around 7 am now but can't fall asleep before 2-3 am. I just seem to get all my productive energy after about 10pm.

Re: Getting Stuff Done by Not Being Mean to Yourself (2010)

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Now, I'm in my 40s and I'm like "Done with work; I think I'll go for a walk and then take a nap." I'm in my early thirties and never had any side projects. After busting my ass coding like hell for 6 years in university and after 8 hours of coding at work per day, I was always seeking to do non-coding activities in my free time: trying out new hobbies, going for a walk, having drinks with friends and going dancing,…

Do you have a list of companies where employees code for a paycheck? Is it broadly, any company where technology is the main driver of revenue. I imagine coding for lifestyle values penetrate in these companies too.

Look for startups that have been bought by a big corp or startup style orgs spun out of a big corp. they typically combine the perks/permissiveness/culture of a startup with the benefits/lifestyle/pay of a big corp. very relaxing combo.

Another good option is a uni gig in their tech department. You’ll have to put up with absolutely scads of incompetence, probably a change control board, crap pay plus you’ll get pay freezes during downturns, but the lifestyle and benefits are absurdly good — I know people who show up for a couple meetings in the morning, leave for a three hour lunch and then go home every day — and you’ll usually be getting a pension. Highly recommend going this route when you’ve made your egg and are ten years out from retirement.

Re: Getting Stuff Done by Not Being Mean to Yourself (2010)

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> I will rise at 5. Meditate, 530-630. Journal 630-730. Breakfast 8-9, > that is very ambitious if not pathologically ambitious. While that was an example of trying to do too much, waking up that early isn't super uncommon - I guess that's what many parents are then? Cultivating a healthy and positive inner dialogue is super important. No one is coming to help you to a greater degree than you picking yourself up and…

Any tips for other night owls that helped you be able to make the shift to mornings? I'm being forced awake around 7 am now but can't fall asleep before 2-3 am. I just seem to get all my productive energy after about 10pm.

do you get actually productive after 10pm? or more like being awake watching a movie, surfing the internet etc?

Re: Getting Stuff Done by Not Being Mean to Yourself (2010)

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have a list of companies where employees code for a paycheck? Is it broadly, any company where technology is the main driver of revenue. I imagine coding for lifestyle values penetrate in these companies too.

Look for startups that have been bought by a big corp or startup style orgs spun out of a big corp. they typically combine the perks/permissiveness/culture of a startup with the benefits/lifestyle/pay of a big corp. very relaxing combo. Another good option is a uni gig in their tech department. You’ll have to put up with absolutely scads of incompetence, probably a change control board, crap pay plus you’ll get pay f…

> I know people who show up for a couple meetings in the morning, leave for a three hour lunch and then go home every day

In which country is this? Where I live now in Europe I've never seen jobs that let you get away with that. Maybe those people you know are well connected with the bosses that they're allowed such lax work behavior.

Re: Getting Stuff Done by Not Being Mean to Yourself (2010)

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post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a variant of the classic book "how to make a million dollars" which contains the advice "sell a book giving instructions on how to make a million dollars by selling a book about the same". Here it's read life advice on the internet to be able to get stuff done to promote life advice on the internet.

i'm actually referring to something a bit different. i observed that many people seem to act especially preachy about certain opinions they objectively can't be truly convinced of (yet). my interpretation is that they actually preach to themselves to convince themselves.

That lines up with my experience as well, and I’be caught myself doing it too in the past.

Interestingly, it can also be right, but ‘new’ - and just caught up in the excitement of learning.

90% of what everyone says (near as I can tell) is what we’re saying to ourselves.

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