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Keeping in line with the style of that comment: No, they're not.
Life is suffering. It's one of the 4 Noble truths of Buddhism. Ancient knowledge.
That's not knowledge and they're truths only in name, it's philosophy.
People who die by suicide want to stop suffering, not to stop living
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I think some people have never experienced prolonged periods of suffering, and thus it is hard for them to imagine .
We may have not experienced prolonged pain, but we all have experienced suffering. Life itself is synonymous with suffering, for all but those few master sages who have been successful in conquering all of their cravings and reaching the utmost of equanimity. Suicide itself is virtually always a highly disordered act, that only demonstrates how deeply the person resorting to it is mired in her cravings. While some ki…
What about someone who has conquered their craving to continue living and decides they are prepared to embrace the end? Have you seen "The Good Place"? It's really quite an interesting show in that it combines a (sometimes very funny) sitcom with a pretty thoughtful exploration into the subject of ethics.
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> sometimes the window doesn’t seem so bad. No, the window still seems awful but it’s the choice you make. From David Foster Wallace: “The so-called ‘psychotically depressed’ person who tries to kill herself doesn’t do so out of quote ‘hopelessness’ or any abstract conviction that life’s assets and debits do not square. And surely not because death seems suddenly appealing. The person in whom Its invisible agony reac…
"looking up and yelling ‘Don’t!’ and ‘Hang on!" Are there people who actually yell this? It seems pretty obvious why they're jumping.
It could be considered a natural instinct to do this?
I once encountered a guy who was thinking of jumping off a bridge and I said a lot of stupid but well meaning things in an attempt to dissuade him.
It got to the point where I realized everything I was saying was just making him more determined to do it. Luckily, I managed to flag down a passing ambulance and the paramedics onboard turned out to be a lot more skilled in the art of persuasion than I was.
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#37I fully intend to kill myself eventually. The idea that I should prolong my life past the point where I get dementia, a degenerative disease, or just plain old age where I can't stand up or whipe my ass is repugnant enough that I can't understand people who want me to suffer until doctors finally stop being able to put me back together. Much better to die cheaply with a wonderful cocktail of opiates while watching a sunset some on some tropical island.
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#40This is why daily full-body sunlight exposure of 15-20 minutes without sunglasses and sunscreen is important.
To kill yourself by getting skin cancer?
Honestly, I just find it hard to care about skin cancer all that much. I gotta die from something at some point, and I feel like covering my skin in nasty oils and stuff on every nice summer day is too much a price for me just to die from "not skin cancer". Because now every nice day is a little bit less nice.
Ofc I'm a bit lucky because I can at least tan somewhat, so if I just taper up my sun exposure in the spring I don't really get burned.