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Re: Rocky Linux 8.8 Available Now

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Post by hunter2_ »

sgtnoodle wrote: post #17
Avshalom wrote: post #11

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https://rockylinux.org/ : Rocky Linux is an open-source enterprise operating system designed to be 100% bug-for-bug compatible with Red Hat Enterprise Linux®. It is under intensive development by the community. It's the only above the fold text on the home page. The About page is ...Red Hat announced that they would discontinue development of CentOS, which has been a production-ready downstream version of Red Hat Ent…

You know, I never ended up navigating to that main page. There wasn't an option for it anywhere in the drop down menu at the top, or in all the options at the bottom. As far as I can tell, the only link to it is the logo graphic? So maybe all they need to do is add a "main page" option to the menu and it will be more ergonomic?

While it might be the case that many websites have a dedicated "home" menu item, I think even more websites use the pattern of the corner logo serving as such, to the point that if a site offers both, I'm using the logo every time. It's one of those things that perhaps verges on anti-pattern in discoverability, but is so ubiquitous that most people probably don't even think about whether that's true or not.

Re: Rocky Linux 8.8 Available Now

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Post by indigodaddy »

PAPPPmAc wrote: post #26
indigodaddy wrote: post #23

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I don’t have any numbers to back me up— just a hunch and from my own experiences in the industry, I would think that in the 2010’s the install base of Debian would have paled in comparison to CentOS (this would be on the interwebs of course). I don’t know that you could say that they were on the same scale, with my suspicion that CentOS was way more prevalent. I’d be interested in stats on that from 2010s, and now. I…

I was going by this low hanging chart from the server market: https://w3techs.com/blog/entry/debian_is_now_the_most_popula... which seems credible with my memories from industry buddies at the time. Though, as you allude, I bet a lot of CentOS installations aren't as visible, given its prevalence in things like compute clusters, dev systems, and that sort of thing. (I have no horse in the race, my personal day-to-day…

Thanks for the link! Seems as though Debian was more popular than I realized on the internet..

Re: Rocky Linux 8.8 Available Now

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Post by silisili »

derekp7 wrote: post #27
bombcar wrote: post #9

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CentOS was nice for two reasons: 1. Big "enterprise" software would run on it because it was basically RedHat. 2. It had an exceptionally long support cycle, so you could setup a machine and ignore it for ten years.

To clarify your second point -- you can maintain security fixes for 10 years without having to worry about random changes that may break your installed apps and workflows.

Which it did, quite often. There would often be bugs that existed between kernel 2.6.300 and 2.6.336 or some nonsense. The idea is nice, but in practice all of that backporting just seemed like a lot of work for not much benefit.

Re: Rocky Linux 8.8 Available Now

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Post by kuon »

sgtnoodle wrote: post #8
kuon wrote: post #2

This is interesting. I use archlinux as my daily linux driver, but for server it is not ideal as it is a bit fragile to upgrade (for example, if you have postgresql installed, an update can put a new version and you have to migrate your db and if you keep the old version, some .so might get updated and it won't start). This could be a solution for servers. I used to use FreeBSD for servers instead of linux, but some…

I've been running Arch on all my personal computers for about 8 years now, including a low power server in my garage. It's true that there's the occasional issue to work out after updating, but overall I'd say I've come out ahead simply from never having the need or urge to wipe my filesystem and start fresh. I currently have upgrade anxiety about my work laptop that's still running Ubuntu 20.04. My most personally n…

Yeah, pulse/jack/pipewire was a bit of a mess. But since 2023, pipewire can replace both and works very well. At least with my hardware.

I actually DO use arch on my personal servers and never had any problem, I was also able to always fix the OS. But I have a new project starting where I will host more sensible stuff and I am wondering what I'll use. I might just use arch with N+1 machines and use the +1 to test upgrades.

Re: Rocky Linux 8.8 Available Now

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Post by ch_123 »

gigatexal wrote: post #24

Which is the defacto one to use? alma Linux or Rocky?

Alma have consistently released the new upstream versions faster than Rocky, so I have decided to go for them. Both distros are essentially just debranded copies of RHEL, so IMHO the choice needs to come down to which organization you have more faith it.

Re: Rocky Linux 8.8 Available Now

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Post by ch_123 »

ashvardanian wrote: post #12

Looking at the release notes, it's still the Linux kernel 4.18, and for the upcoming 9.1 it is only 5.14. Are there any RHOS-like distros with recent kernels like 5.19 and 6+?

You'll need to wait for RHEL 10 :)

It's worth noting that Red Hat backports newer hardware support and some functionality to its new kernels, so in practice it is not as out of date as the version may imply.

Re: Rocky Linux 8.8 Available Now

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Post by realgmk »

ashvardanian wrote: post #12

Looking at the release notes, it's still the Linux kernel 4.18, and for the upcoming 9.1 it is only 5.14. Are there any RHOS-like distros with recent kernels like 5.19 and 6+?

ELRepo has upstream kernels for all Enterprise Linux compatibles.

Also, the Rocky Linux SIG/Kernel group may even provide an alternative ISO(s) with those upstream kernels at periodic intervals. If you (or anyone else) is interested in helping with that, jump into https://chat.rockylinux.org and join that special interest group.

SHAMELESS PLUG: CIQ (my company) also has an upstream optimized kernel that we support provided via Mountain (our operating system delivery platform).

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