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Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?

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Post by adamduren »

paulpauper wrote: post #220
remote_phone wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I heard that 2/3 of the weight loss is muscle, do you find that to be the case?

this is likely incorrect because people are confusing lean body weight loss for muscle loss. lean body weight loss does not mean only muscle loss. lean weight includes non muscle like skin, organs, etc.

Drugs that target the GLP-1 and GIP pathways can suppress appetite, potentially leading to a significant caloric deficit.

This can lead to the body to break down muscle tissue to obtain protein for energy which could lead to a loss of lean muscle mass

However, maintaining regular exercise and consuming sufficient protein can help to minimize the impact of lean muscle mass loss

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Post by kennyloginz »

MandieD wrote: post #57
lumb63 wrote: post #23

I’m glad people are enjoying Ozempic. My experience from seeing a family member on it, is I would not touch it if I were a 500-pound alcoholic smoking two packs of cigarettes a day. That’s an exaggeration since it probably outweighs the health issues there, but only slightly. The person I know taking Ozempic has only lost weight (35 lbs) due to the fact that eating now makes her sick. She has been sapped of all energ…

Your relative’s sad story reminds me of a short story I read a few years ago about a miracle pill that leaves about 90% of its takers perfectly slim and able to stay that way eating anything, after a few truly disgusting initial days of elimination, but kills the other 10% gruesomely. Because it’s so wonderfully effective for the majority, there ends up being a ton of social and economic pressure for anyone even slig…

How does this remind you of this strange story.

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Post by burnished »

LazyMans wrote: post #155

Yes. On a compounded semaglutide. I can finally control my hunger and a nice unexpected effect has been losing a desire to drink large quantities of alcohol. I don’t drink during the week anyway, but it seems to be the volume that turns me off to drinking. Thus a few cocktails are all I can tolerate. For context, Im 30, male, would be defined as a binge drinker on weekends. Oh, and I’ve given up nicotine entirely. I…

Nicotine was the hardest thing I have ever given up - three years later and I still get the occasional craving or dream where I have an excuse to smoke. This tracks with the experience of other smokes I have known. All else being equal and given you have reason to believe the drug reduces cravings, I'd guess that it is a strong factor

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Post by pasquinelli »

paulpauper wrote: post #220
remote_phone wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I heard that 2/3 of the weight loss is muscle, do you find that to be the case?

this is likely incorrect because people are confusing lean body weight loss for muscle loss. lean body weight loss does not mean only muscle loss. lean weight includes non muscle like skin, organs, etc.

not just lost muscle mass, but also lost organ mass?

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Post by pasquinelli »

leroy-is-here wrote: post #229
beebmam wrote: post #227

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Free will has not been shown to exist. Everything is nature.

Reality does not need to be peer-reviewed to be true.

how could you separate actually will power from the illusion of will power?

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Post by mym1990 »

reaperman wrote: post #130
mym1990 wrote: post #84

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I don’t necessarily mean dangerous in the health aspect, although long term affects of these drugs are not know yet…I mean the dependency on needed the drug to keep a certain lifestyle, and then having an “oh shit” moment when you’re in a place that you can’t access it, whether that be traveling or the supply of it becomes scarce, or it gets banned, etc

That sounds like the lesser of two evils to me. Get healthier now and maybe sometime later lose access to the thing that helps you be healthier...or don't get healthier now? Yeah, there are other, orthogonal, choices but I don't think they're part of this particular decision matrix.

But given that the actual health benefits of ozempic(for me weight loss is not indicative of better health) have not actually been seen yet, you are quite possibly just taking on both evils at the same time.

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Post by reaperman »

quazar wrote: post #201
reaperman wrote: post #175

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You ship it as a dry/lypohilized powder, both semaglutide and tirzepatide survives long China->Europe shipping in the summer just fine, with customs delays. The testing I've seen showed 99.965% purity of semaglutide after 22 days in shipping from China to Poland during April. Tirzepatide shows 99.064% purity after 58 days of shipping in October-November. These didn't start out at 100.00% purity either, so they likely…

Where do you buy it from to ship to Poland?

Anything specific would be inappropriate for this forum. But the broad answer is a chemicals distributor in China. I actually only utilize them for legal "nutritional" compounds, but others use them for pharmaceutical options, and those are independently tested frequently by a variety of stakeholders. Personally I really wish US citizens didn't feel forced to go outside of the quality protections of the FDA for their medical care.

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Post by voldacar »

remote_phone wrote: post #216
jmpman wrote: post #151

I’ve been on Mounjaro since August. Down almost 60lbs, and it’s been a life changer. Have I had some gastrointestinal issues, sure, but expected. I feel great and my brain seems to be functioning as well as when I was in my 20’s. Now, when I go to the bar with friends, I end up having maybe 2 beers and although enjoyable, I don’t feel that light switch turning on which encourages me to drink more. Can I force myself…

I heard that 2/3 of the weight loss is muscle, do you find that to be the case?

Obese people do not have enough muscle mass for 2/3 of their weight loss to be muscle

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Post by tuatoru »

dmix wrote: post #215
caymanjim wrote: post #205

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Exercise does nothing for weight loss if you're eating too much. Exercise has health benefits, but weight loss is not one of them for the vast majority of people. People wildly overestimate how many calories they're burning.

s/calories/carbs Calories can still be a useful metric as a proxy but low calorie (“diet”) foods tend to compensate with more carbs. At least the ones I see regularly at my grocery store. As a side note: It’s actually difficult to find pre-packaged low carb food at regular grocery stores sadly. It requires effort to make yourself, just like going to the gym. Like most good things in life.

Low glycemic index carbs are available. I find I eat smaller portions and feel full for longer with low GI rice vs ordinary rice, for example.
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