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Cities Aren't Loud: Cars Are Loud (2021) [video]

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Post by uoaei »

tristor wrote: post #248
uoaei wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think they're talking about the tuners, but rather the good ol' boys and their trukks, rolling coal being an extreme example.

I'm pretty sure they're talking about popcorn tunes (also called "crackle tunes") which intentionally makes your car backfire so it sounds like a poor man's version of rally anti-lag, but in the process destroys the catalytic converters, fuel efficiency, power output, and is generally obnoxious. Rolling coal isn't even a thing in Europe, and the folks I was responding to sound like they're in Europe. There's a bunch…

I'm pretty sure they're talking about lots of things, primarily vehicles that "make your windows rattle". Popcorn tunes don't do that, the frequencies are too high and the impulses too quick. The description fits Harleys (as literally stated in their comment) as well as big rumbly trucks with knobbies and a straight-piped exhaust.

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Post by hgsgm »

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #241
epolanski wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Say what you want about soviet city planning but it was damn efficient. I have never ever seen a soviet-era suburb which didn't have 4 to 12 story buildings with parks and aisles all around them and all kind of services being at a 5 minutes walking distance top (church, shops, post office, elementary and middle school, etc).[1] Literally under every building you would find people quietly enjoying their evening on the…

This is something I heard a lot from people from the former GDR. Usually, they start by acknowledging the bad things: the limited opportunity to travel, the surveillance. But then, they tell you about what they miss. Knowing their neighbours, a certain idea of fraternity and togetherness in hardship, the feeling that even as a poor kid you could achieve something and be useful to society as a whole, the absence of re…

Yeah it wasn't all bad if you weren't in the 50% if the population that Stalin murdered.

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Post by culopatin »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #206
david-gpu wrote: post #17

I live in a high-rise condo next to a six-lane stroad that was even showcased on this YouTube channel and the 24/7 traffic noise is annoying, particularly when you want to go for a walk and can't even hold a conversation. This didn't happen in the places where I lived back in Europe because zoning laws were different. Instead of the sprawl of freehold single family homes separate from a dense urban core, these much q…

What this tells me is that the internal combustion engine is a bad idea everywhere but especially in a dense urban core. People like both the dense urban core and the suburb single family home life style. They are very different modes of life. A lot of Europeans I know really like one or the other because they don’t really get them back home. The solution to road noise doesn’t have to be a dramatic rezoning and a rev…

Tires make more noise than modern engines. A Tesla will be just as loud, if not more, than a small engine compact ICE.

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Post by Aerbil313 »

epolanski wrote: post #111
david-gpu wrote: post #17

I live in a high-rise condo next to a six-lane stroad that was even showcased on this YouTube channel and the 24/7 traffic noise is annoying, particularly when you want to go for a walk and can't even hold a conversation. This didn't happen in the places where I lived back in Europe because zoning laws were different. Instead of the sprawl of freehold single family homes separate from a dense urban core, these much q…

Say what you want about soviet city planning but it was damn efficient. I have never ever seen a soviet-era suburb which didn't have 4 to 12 story buildings with parks and aisles all around them and all kind of services being at a 5 minutes walking distance top (church, shops, post office, elementary and middle school, etc).[1] Literally under every building you would find people quietly enjoying their evening on the…

Anyone who says “things didn’t changed, it’s just nostalgia” needs to get rid of all the screens which stand in the way of them seeing the real world, at least for a while.

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Post by pluijzer »

titanomachy wrote: post #234
pluijzer wrote: post #36

Like mentioned in the video Moppets are annoyingly loud. They are allowed on many of the bicycle paths (and go on the once they're not supposed to anyway). So if a city center diverges car traffic but has a bicycle path through it they ruin the otherwise calm. In my personal opinion they are not suited for bicycle paths at all. And don't get me started on 'brommobielen' (tiny cars that can go max. 45 km/h and you can…

Mopeds. “Moppet” is slang for child.

Thanks, didn't know that. Gives a different meaning to my message.

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Post by gen220 »

epolanski wrote: post #111
david-gpu wrote: post #17

I live in a high-rise condo next to a six-lane stroad that was even showcased on this YouTube channel and the 24/7 traffic noise is annoying, particularly when you want to go for a walk and can't even hold a conversation. This didn't happen in the places where I lived back in Europe because zoning laws were different. Instead of the sprawl of freehold single family homes separate from a dense urban core, these much q…

Say what you want about soviet city planning but it was damn efficient. I have never ever seen a soviet-era suburb which didn't have 4 to 12 story buildings with parks and aisles all around them and all kind of services being at a 5 minutes walking distance top (church, shops, post office, elementary and middle school, etc).[1] Literally under every building you would find people quietly enjoying their evening on the…

You can visit one city to capture this experience. Berlin was largely destroyed in WW II, many neighborhoods in the west and east were redeveloped with the support of the US and USSR, respectively.

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Post by 908B64B197 »

floatrock wrote: post #271
908B64B197 wrote: post #261

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You can smell the ideology behind these developments from miles away. No cars of course (not that people didn't want them, the central planners simply weren't good enough to create an environment in which they could be manufactured). Cramped living conditions but ample communal space, so a lot of time is spent in full view of the neighbor (so they can report anti-communist behaviors to the local police). No individua…

> No individuality, identical buildings with the same layout for identical cogs in the machine. And yet when the west does this, we celebrate it as "economies of scale": https://www.istockphoto.com/photos/subdivision-aerial (well, as long as your tiny piece of lawn stays green, your house is one of the five approved paint colors, and your HOA dues/conformity-fines are paid)

Better even: if you don't like the community, you can just leave and settle somewhere else that closer aligns with your value. No exit checks, no assigned housing.

I guess to the average worker in the East, these North American housing developments must have been seen as somewhat evil and not desirable at all.

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Post by Al-Khwarizmi »

phpisthebest wrote: post #194
Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #156

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> Also I prefer not be limited in my shopping choices just to the single shop that happens to be in my building or on my block... I live in a mid-sized European city, and I have literally dozens of shops within 10-minute walking distance of home, as well as several banks, primary and high school, health center, several playgrounds, parks, gyms, plenty of bars and restaurants, etc.

>> dozens of shops Do they all sell the same goods, or do you have "dozens of shops" that all specialize in a few things, like you have a bakery, coffee shop, produce shop, butcher,hardware store, etc all as independent shops Or do you have a Kroger, Mejier, Walmart, HEB, Lowes, and HomeDepot style shopping all with in walking distance...

Even if you focus on a category of shops what I said is still true, for most categories. Dozens of food shops, dozens of bakeries, dozens of fruit shops, dozens of clothes shops, dozens of supermarkets, maybe 5 or 6 hardware stores.

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Post by ryandrake »

epolanski wrote: post #111
david-gpu wrote: post #17

I live in a high-rise condo next to a six-lane stroad that was even showcased on this YouTube channel and the 24/7 traffic noise is annoying, particularly when you want to go for a walk and can't even hold a conversation. This didn't happen in the places where I lived back in Europe because zoning laws were different. Instead of the sprawl of freehold single family homes separate from a dense urban core, these much q…

Say what you want about soviet city planning but it was damn efficient. I have never ever seen a soviet-era suburb which didn't have 4 to 12 story buildings with parks and aisles all around them and all kind of services being at a 5 minutes walking distance top (church, shops, post office, elementary and middle school, etc).[1] Literally under every building you would find people quietly enjoying their evening on the…

> I have never ever seen a soviet-era suburb which didn't have 4 to 12 story buildings with parks and aisles all around them and all kind of services being at a 5 minutes walking distance top (church, shops, post office, elementary and middle school, etc).[1]

My stomach tingled just reading that, and then when I clicked the picture I felt real, panicked claustrophobia. If I believed in hell it would look like this. Maybe lots of people like living this way, but for me, no way. I'm a human. I'm not meant to be a bee living in a giant concrete honeycomb next to tens of thousands of bee neighbors buzzing around. I can't even imagine myself living that densely without having a mental break.

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