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Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?

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Re: Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?

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Post by scheme271 »

BizarroLand wrote: post #10
crakenzak wrote: post #2

Now if only it didn’t cost so damn much every month even under insurance =(

You can buy it as a "research chemical" and save money, but then the potential consequences of diy medicine and all that that entails are all on you. Hopefully the price will come down more as it becomes more prevalent or as generics become available.

GLP-1 agonists are a bit more tricky since they are temperature sensitive and need to be injected. You'll really need to be careful to keep it sterile and handle it properly. Whether the "research chemical" will receive the proper care until it gets into your hands is something that you're literally gambling your health on.

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Post by deegles »

nancyhn wrote: post #17
karaterobot wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a lot of people, it's kind of a choice of which substance you are going to be dependent on. It's all expensive and sad, but between Ozempic and cigarettes, alcohol, or overeating, Ozempic has got to be healthier, and quite possibly cheaper in the long run.

Is a drug or drug-like-food (ie, sugar) dependency really the only option?

What do you suggest otherwise? Clearly whatever we're doing now has led us to this point.

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Post by lumb63 »

I’m glad people are enjoying Ozempic. My experience from seeing a family member on it, is I would not touch it if I were a 500-pound alcoholic smoking two packs of cigarettes a day. That’s an exaggeration since it probably outweighs the health issues there, but only slightly.

The person I know taking Ozempic has only lost weight (35 lbs) due to the fact that eating now makes her sick. She has been sapped of all energy and has developed issues with her bladder, circulatory system, joints, thyroid, and digestive system since starting Ozempic. I’m not saying it’s due to Ozempic, but I am saying all these issues have cropped up in the few months since she started taking it, and she never had any chronic health issues prior. At least she lost some weight, I guess.

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Post by trasz4 »

HDThoreaun wrote: post #18
tboyd47 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They will find some way to prevent people from acquiring it and promote some other in-patent drug.

It is not possible to stop people from getting mail order pills from China. Especially with the abortion restrictions the market already is pretty large and it will be easy for them to throw these drugs in too.

We used to believe it was not possible to stop people from getting their funny movie clips from China.

Re: Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?

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Post by karaterobot »

nancyhn wrote: post #17
karaterobot wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a lot of people, it's kind of a choice of which substance you are going to be dependent on. It's all expensive and sad, but between Ozempic and cigarettes, alcohol, or overeating, Ozempic has got to be healthier, and quite possibly cheaper in the long run.

Is a drug or drug-like-food (ie, sugar) dependency really the only option?

Versus, like, "just suck it up"? No, but empirically that strategy has had poor results across the wider population. It seems like it would work, but usually doesn't. At some point people look for more effective strategies.

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Post by yamtaddle »

nancyhn wrote: post #17
karaterobot wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a lot of people, it's kind of a choice of which substance you are going to be dependent on. It's all expensive and sad, but between Ozempic and cigarettes, alcohol, or overeating, Ozempic has got to be healthier, and quite possibly cheaper in the long run.

Is a drug or drug-like-food (ie, sugar) dependency really the only option?

It's that, or dropping out of modern life, as far as I can tell.

Everyone's on something and/or coping in unhealthy ways.

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Post by trasz4 »

mym1990 wrote: post #5

A drug that promotes weight loss, lessens the desire to smoke, drink, etc...sounds too good to be true? From what I have heard, all of these issues come back as soon as someone comes off the drug. So either a person is committing to a lifetime of being dependent on this drug, or a person is committing to some period of time of ideal living, followed by a possible time of depression after reverting to the status quo.

>From what I have heard, all of these issues come back as soon as someone comes off the drug

Same as with drugs for hypertension, depression, hyperglycemia and many, many others. Not every drug is supposed to somehow permanently cure you.

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Post by aplusbi »

mym1990 wrote: post #5

A drug that promotes weight loss, lessens the desire to smoke, drink, etc...sounds too good to be true? From what I have heard, all of these issues come back as soon as someone comes off the drug. So either a person is committing to a lifetime of being dependent on this drug, or a person is committing to some period of time of ideal living, followed by a possible time of depression after reverting to the status quo.

A lot of addiction is caused by social issues or mental health issues, but it's really hard to deal with those issues when someone is also dealing with the effects of addiction. A drug like this could provide an opportunity to fix the underlying issues causing addiction in the first place.

And for some people they will have to take this for life, which isn't so different from many other medications.

Re: Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?

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Post by acjohnson55 »

nancyhn wrote: post #17
karaterobot wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a lot of people, it's kind of a choice of which substance you are going to be dependent on. It's all expensive and sad, but between Ozempic and cigarettes, alcohol, or overeating, Ozempic has got to be healthier, and quite possibly cheaper in the long run.

Is a drug or drug-like-food (ie, sugar) dependency really the only option?

Most research indicates "yes", conditioned on the consensus of what comprises the modern lifestyle.

I've been trying to understand what changed to create the obesity epidemic. Many things contribute, but it's hard to identify the smoking gun. My understanding is that one major lever seems to be the advent of snacks, refrigeration, and microwaves. Drastically reduced food prep overhead has radically alerted eating patterns.

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