Is it just me or is the iMessage Beta icon very very similar to the HipChat icon? :) http://cl.ly/3m060G3x1o2X3I1u3I1D
Messages (iChat) has been around far longer than HipChat.
Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion
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If you install Perian, Quicktime supports expands to include many more formats http://perian.org/ But I agree and would welcome the support for VLC too!
I already have Perian. It's not supported well imho. Just try to open a 8gb mkv and it broke QT.
It didn't break Qt, it broke Perian.
That being said, I've got a couple of 8GB MKV's and they all work perfectly. So caveat emptor and all that ... :P
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Out of interest how would you feel about it if developer licenses were free for students? I would be much happier (to the effect of actually seeing more good than bad in this restriction) if getting that ID was a matter of filling out a form an passing a turing test - so, for example, if any apple ID could be used to get a signing certificate, that would be much better. (edit: this is not about the money. It's about…
A license is $99. If you can afford a Mac to develop on your can certainly afford a $99 license. They reason the have the fee is to keep out people who aren't serious about development. If they didn't have it for example the forums would be overrun with people who just signed up to get the latest OS beta complaining about bugs (this is already a problem at $99). People can still develop and distribute apps without ev…
You shouldn't have to prove that you're "serious about development" by paying money to write and distribute software. How many developers started as hobbyists?
Charging $100 just to be capricious is not a good move and is certainly not a good omen for OS 10.9 "Tabby" wherein you can be almost certain they will remove the option to run unsigned software (for your own protection, of course! You don't want to pay Apple $100? What are you, poor? The computer cost $1000! $generic_strawman_argument!)
Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion
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Since os 8.something I've always felt that my mac is a workhorse. It's like I've had to have a mac, I a professional designer damnit. But this update feels like it's creeping towards a heavily consumer facing product. My workhorse is being swapped for a show pony... (no doubt it'll still do the job, it just a totally unfounded feeling I have)
As a non-Mac-user, I've always had the impression (from Apple and the general public) that Macs are consumer-oriented devices (or at least non-corporate machines). The only significant impact they've had in business in my view is for creative professionals like yourself, and only because for a while Adobe tools worked better on Mac (which may or may not be the case anymore). Schools used Macs because they were cheap…
And a bunch of developers use Macs because they offer sane GUI on the top of UNIX.
Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion
#255" OS X Mountain Lion arrives this summer. With all-new features inspired by iPad, the Mac just keeps getting better and better. " Am I the only person that doesn't want an ipad on the desktop?
No your not. I want my stuff to sync without issues like my notes, contacts, mail but I don't want my laptop/desktop to feel like my phone. Example: Launch pad, is anyone really using this?
Nope, and you don't have to. But for those users that are new to the platform (and I have watched quite a few) it makes them feel at home. They instantly know where to look for their apps, they can re-arrange them however they like. It is not for those of us who grew up on Mac OS, then Mac OS X, Linux and Windows, it is for those that have had an iPad or an iPhone and know there is a single location (home) where all your apps are. Launchpad fits that bill nicely.
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Malware writers will just get free ids and sign their malware. Will all of these OSX devices be regularly polling Apple to get a list of revoked certs? I guess this would be useful to prevent malware being installed, but it's not going to be massively useful to remove already installed malware. Especially if that malware can interrupt the polling. I wonder how difficult it will be to get developer IDs. Might be a mar…
Malware writers will just get free ids and sign their malware. Will all of these OSX devices be regularly polling Apple to get a list of revoked certs? Yes, the first problem will be to create some malware from OS X first. You know, the biggest success so far had been that Mac Defender, that was: a) a trojan (you had to install it yourself) and b) only affected like 10 users
I discovered where your confusion came from:
"I guess this would be useful to prevent malware being installed, but it's not going to be massively useful to remove already installed malware. Especially if that malware can interrupt the polling."
You mistakenly read that as if I wasn't talking about malware that exists today. No. There are two situations:
1.) revocation cert issued before malware installed
2.) malware installed before revocation cert issued
Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion
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Read what Gruber writes about that Gatekeep feature: My favorite Mountain Lion feature, though, is one that hardly even has a visible interface. Apple is calling it “Gatekeeper”. It’s a system whereby developers can sign up for free-of-charge Apple developer IDs which they can then use to cryptographically sign their applications. If an app is found to be malware, Apple can revoke that developer’s certificate, render…
Gruber was telling that the Apple ID was going to be free. It isn't. It requires a Mac Developer account as far as I could understand it. When I was 15 I wrote a Taskbar dialer for Windows 9x and later NT (this was in the modem days. Of course I haven't updated it in ages and the only reason my old webpage is still there is because I found it by accident in an old backup, but here is a google search for it: https://w…
An Apple ID is indeed free. I've had an Apple ID for downloading Xcode for years now. At the moment the only way to get an app signing key is by purchasing a $99 license (which also gets you publishing privileges in the App Store) but it is extremely likely that in the future getting a signing key will be completely free and will not require a $99 license fee. It won't get you App Store submittal and won't get you publishing on the App Store, but I think that is fair.
Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion
#258Nothing exciting. Let me quantify this before I get shot by the Apple fanboys. I'm not a Microsoft fanboy either but I am not buying the hype and feature sheet. Example: 1. iCloud. Have Windows Live ID and Live Mesh integration in windows for nearly 3 years now. Works across mobile devices already. 2. Messages. Windows Live Messenger has social integration already which is on par with this. 3. Reminders. Windows Live…
I don't have time to refute all of your claims, but: >>> 1. iCloud. Have Windows Live ID and Live Mesh integration in windows for nearly 3 years now. Works across mobile devices already. It works across mobile devices, poorly. I think iCloud is a much better user experience, and has better app support even being the newer product. >>> 2. Messages. Windows Live Messenger has social integration already which is on par…
I think iMessage on Mac will be somewhat crippled relative to on an iPhone, ss there is no fallback to SMS. That makes sense, and also is what Apple says on its site:
"it lets you send unlimited messages to anyone on
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#259It's amusing that Gatekeeper's icon looks a lot like Microsoft Security Essentials, but that (and Messages) is probably my main draw - gotta keep the parents safe on their respective all-important iOS and OSX life-centers.
Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion
#260" OS X Mountain Lion arrives this summer. With all-new features inspired by iPad, the Mac just keeps getting better and better. " Am I the only person that doesn't want an ipad on the desktop?
You're not. The continuing IOSification of OSX is something that has been bugging me too and part of why, to date, I've yet to upgrade to Lion. It looks like Apple wants to create a more iOS-like approach across all its products, which is fine if you buy into the whole ecosystem. It also seems there's a trend here, with Apple bringing iOS increasingly into OSX and Microsoft bringing Windows Phone into Windows 8, the…
This worries me too, and I hope it doesn't go too far. However I am using Lion and in general I don't really notice it in this OS.
In fact, other than the reverse scrolling behaviour (which would be easy to revert if I cared) I rarely notice any difference in behaviour between my Lion laptop and my girlfriend's Snow Leopard laptop.