Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by orionlogic » Thu, Feb 16, 2012, 5:00 PM UTC

moe wrote: post #136

orionlogic wrote: post #96

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I am excited as well in AirPlay Mirroring so i watched several times in the demo. It seems video plays with Quicktime. So lot's of video formats are not compatible like mkv's, iso's etc... If somehow i am able to mirror VLC i will run and buy Apple TV at once.

lot's of video formats are not compatible This will airplay pretty much everything you throw at it: http://beamer-app.com

thanks, didn't know this one. If only it could play burned dvd's like ISO files.

Still, VLC integration is a must. With no compromise.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by Lewisham » Thu, Feb 16, 2012, 5:04 PM UTC

glhaynes wrote: post #215

Lewisham wrote: post #213

I know it's not a popular opinion, but yet again I feel like Apple has decided to simply keep status quo with Mac OS X, which is very much the same Mac OS X we got from about 10.3 onwards (Panther, wasn't it)? Think about how different Ubuntu is now since then. Windows 8 is a real risk-take from a company that does not take risks (whether they were forced to do so or not is another argument). Mac OS X is... Mac OS X…

What is it you're wanting?

A feeling that I'm not buying the same OS each year.

Personally, I think Microsoft's strategy of bringing back the hybrid desktop/tablet, where you can do tablet-type things on the road/in bed, then drop it into a dock and go back to mouse and keyboard for work, is pretty sound now. I like what they've done with Windows 8. I like that they're trying.

What do I want from Apple? Probably something I don't know I want. I want to be able to drop an iPad into an iMac enclosure and have a hybrid work area. I want iCloud to be more than some weird, feature-free Dropbox (the new organization structure sounds like a misery for anyone with more than a handful of files). I want them to fix Finder and rethink the Dock.

But this is like asking what I want from an iPhone before I ever saw one, and I think most people's ideas of what they wanted were so wildly off, and then Steve comes out and says "You want this" and he's right. That's what I want from them, to know me better than myself.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by bdunbar » Thu, Feb 16, 2012, 5:04 PM UTC

vidarh wrote: post #25

bdunbar wrote: post #18

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Fascinating. I'm still on 10.6: no compelling reason to upgrade. By the time I _do_ upgrade I'm in for some future shock: like dropping a Victorian gentleman into Haight-Ashbury in 1968.

My work laptop is on 10.5.8...

I would probably still be on 10.5, but the new laptop came with 10.6.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by aaronblohowiak » Thu, Feb 16, 2012, 5:06 PM UTC

bwarp wrote: post #184

Nothing exciting. Let me quantify this before I get shot by the Apple fanboys. I'm not a Microsoft fanboy either but I am not buying the hype and feature sheet. Example: 1. iCloud. Have Windows Live ID and Live Mesh integration in windows for nearly 3 years now. Works across mobile devices already. 2. Messages. Windows Live Messenger has social integration already which is on par with this. 3. Reminders. Windows Live…

>4. Notes. NOTHING on this planet compares to Microsoft's OneNote.

Scrivner and Evernote do compare, actually. That being said, OneNote is one of the least appreciated MS products.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by nchlswu » Thu, Feb 16, 2012, 5:06 PM UTC

Lewisham wrote: post #213

I know it's not a popular opinion, but yet again I feel like Apple has decided to simply keep status quo with Mac OS X, which is very much the same Mac OS X we got from about 10.3 onwards (Panther, wasn't it)? Think about how different Ubuntu is now since then. Windows 8 is a real risk-take from a company that does not take risks (whether they were forced to do so or not is another argument). Mac OS X is... Mac OS X…

Mac OS is at a point where they simply can't take these drastic jumps that you may see in the competition. For one, they're now at a yearly cycle. Two, the audience has expanded and continues to expand it's user base.

OS X's yearly cycles allows them to take a loyal user base who will upgrade and gradually introduce them to paradigm shifts, like cloud storage. Apple is taking calculated steps to make sure any of their risk taking features are done right and presented to the consumer correctly so they're adopted. I think they definitely have the vision. Something they do even better is have the patience to make sure their vision comes to fruition (mostly) correctly.

I can understand your point, but I'm not sure what progress you want. I'm more inclined to say that you're a segment that Apple doesn't quite need.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by nsxwolf » Thu, Feb 16, 2012, 5:06 PM UTC

pilif wrote: post #72

batista wrote: post #64

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Back then I had no permission to use a computer ("they make you stupid" was my parents argument) and certainly no credit card to pay anybody to do development - and even then, as a minor I would probably never have gotten that certificate. The computer isn't free either. And you can always build and distribute without the ID or the certificate. This is just for distribution through the App Store or to users that have…

The computer isn't free either. And you can always build and distribute without the ID or the certificate. This is just for distribution through the App Store or to users that have it set to only allow signed apps. The latter is the default. So for other people to use this application I wrote as a minor, my users would have to change the setting. Well, if you are that easily discouraged, then maybe that career wasn't…

Users don't even have to change a setting. They Ctrl-click, and select "Open". One time. On the first launch of the unsigned app. And it's done.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by smackfu » Thu, Feb 16, 2012, 5:07 PM UTC

hahainternet wrote: post #159

antidaily wrote: post #80

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No, no one wants that (I hope). Read the Gruber preview and you'll feel more at ease. OS X and iOS are not merging. He describes Mountain Lion as "a series of steps toward defining a set of shared concepts, styles, and principles between two fundamentally distinct OSes." http://daringfireball.net/2012/02/mountain_lion

I asked a few friends and couldn't get an answer. What features have been taken from OSX and put into iOS? It seems to me that contrary to Gruber's claim, OSX is moving towards iOS and iOS is moving towards its competition.

OS X Safari tabs were added to the iPad version of Safari in iOS 5.

Most of the rest of the features that people are listing don't seem right, like both iOS and OS X have a search called Spotlight but they aren't very similar in UI.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by dasil003 » Thu, Feb 16, 2012, 5:08 PM UTC

bwarp wrote: post #184

Nothing exciting. Let me quantify this before I get shot by the Apple fanboys. I'm not a Microsoft fanboy either but I am not buying the hype and feature sheet. Example: 1. iCloud. Have Windows Live ID and Live Mesh integration in windows for nearly 3 years now. Works across mobile devices already. 2. Messages. Windows Live Messenger has social integration already which is on par with this. 3. Reminders. Windows Live…

I'm not particularly excited about this release, but I gotta think you'd have been better off not calling out the word fanboy here at all, because you really really come off as a Windows fanboy, much more so than any of the responses to you come off as any kind of fanboy, and frankly more than I've seen anywhere in quite some time.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by Aloisius » Thu, Feb 16, 2012, 5:08 PM UTC

2mur wrote: post #152

The only thing that I really dislike about iCloud is sharing a computer (with your wife/family). Our family room computer is a mac mini that is logged into one user account all of the time. It is shared by myself, my wife and my kids. The iPhoto on that account is set up to use my iCloud account. If my wife wants to get her photos (iPhone) downloaded from iCloud she has to log over to an account that only exists for…

Why don't you use multiple user accounts on your Mac Mini? That's pretty much what it is designed for.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by lunchladydoris » Thu, Feb 16, 2012, 5:08 PM UTC

rads wrote: post #157

Does Mountain Lion allow you to make apps full-screen on non-primary displays? This is the main problem I have with Lion.

Agreed. I was more than a little annoyed to discover that I couldn't watch iTunes Store movies full-screen on my HD TV through an displayport-to-HDMI adapter after upgrading to Lion. I actually gave some thought to going back to Snow Leopard but that seemed more bother than it was worth so I started renting movies on the Xbox 360 instead.