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Disney cancels plans to relocate 2,000 jobs to Florida

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Re: Disney cancels plans to relocate 2,000 jobs to Florida

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Both a sensible business move and the right thing to do. If they could magically roll up the entirety of WDW and relocate it elsewhere I suspect they would.

There are already plans for Texas. Same with Universal.

https://therealdeal.com/texas/2023/04/13/dmb-plans-12000-hom...

Re: Disney cancels plans to relocate 2,000 jobs to Florida

#62
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Amsterdam has been below sea level since the 17th century. Not sure why more modern cities would not be able to adapt as well.

As I understand it, Florida’s ground is porous and it’s not possible to keep water from going under any barriers you create.

Yep, there's no way to keep the water out: https://sealevelrise.org/states/florida/

Re: Disney cancels plans to relocate 2,000 jobs to Florida

#63
post #23

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Amsterdam has been below sea level since the 17th century. Not sure why more modern cities would not be able to adapt as well.

As I understand it, Florida’s ground is porous and it’s not possible to keep water from going under any barriers you create.

What if we paved the earth? The entire earth!

Re: Disney cancels plans to relocate 2,000 jobs to Florida

#64
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To me, investing in FL is a long term looser, not because pf politics but because of Climate Change. It has been there for a bit over 50 years, 50 years from now, the potential exists that it will be a place only mermaids can visit.

It can be both. Businesses seeing a governor and party in power going after companies because of something they said is a strong short-term disincentive. Rising sea levels and increasing temperatures are a strong long-term disincentive.

Re: Disney cancels plans to relocate 2,000 jobs to Florida

#65
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True, and normal people should find ways to get them out as soon as possible.

Unfortunately there is no recall statute in Florida, they are stuck with him. https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_governing_recall_in_Florida#:~:... .

Florida voters could pass an initiative to add recalls to their constitution, presumably. And initiate a recall if it passes. A pretty high bar, but potentially doable.

Re: Disney cancels plans to relocate 2,000 jobs to Florida

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As I understand it, Florida’s ground is porous and it’s not possible to keep water from going under any barriers you create.

Yep, there's no way to keep the water out: https://sealevelrise.org/states/florida/

So build floating cities? I think Tokyo or Osaka had that idea, they might actually make it a reality.

Re: Disney cancels plans to relocate 2,000 jobs to Florida

#67

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As I understand it, Florida’s ground is porous and it’s not possible to keep water from going under any barriers you create.

What if we paved the earth? The entire earth!

If you got a thick enough layer of concrete & pavement under Miami and built a contiguous seawall, you could just float the SS Miami wherever you want!

Re: Disney cancels plans to relocate 2,000 jobs to Florida

#68
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post #13

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Someone pointed out that lack of growth is treated as decline in our culture/economy. So the threat of climate change in Florida is that real estate prices will stop growing - that breaks a fundamental assumption - line goes up - and that drives a race to the exit. So far this has only happened in some localities, so we'll see. If my house is underwater fiscally, it may as well be underwater with the fishes.

I'll gladly buy your Miami property for a discount. My thesis is it's not going anywhere in the next 100 years and that the prices will only continue to rise.

Florida real estate prices is incredibly volatile. They are in an upswing now (along with everyone else), but crash just as quickly. Land speculation is a risky business, but there is money to be made in Florida vs. more stable markets.

> My thesis is it's not going anywhere in the next 100 years and that the prices will only continue to rise.

I don't think you've looked at a graph for the last 50 years. In the end, they will probably rise if just because of inflation. The question is will it outpace inflation or crash. Frankly, the job market in FL isn't great for techies (although I interned for IBM at Boca Raton in 1995), so I haven't really looked into it.

Re: Disney cancels plans to relocate 2,000 jobs to Florida

#69
post #8

Both a sensible business move and the right thing to do. If they could magically roll up the entirety of WDW and relocate it elsewhere I suspect they would.

There are already plans for Texas. Same with Universal.

I wish the PNW would get some love, we have very little going in terms of Amusement parks (the biggest one is in Idaho, you've probably never heard of it). Eastern Oregon has plenty of land...I can dream anyways.

Re: Disney cancels plans to relocate 2,000 jobs to Florida

#70
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DeStantis' statements made it obvious this is political retaliation for speaking out against his legislation. I don't particularly care for either party, but Florida taxpayers are going to end up paying the bill both in settlement money and in lost jobs due to the government open hostility / retribution towards their first amendment rights. https://reason.com/2023/05/16/ron-desantis-confirms-again-th...

I live in a republican sun belt state where the legislature’s politics have never matched my own (at least not as long as I’ve been able to vote), but until pretty recently, it was generally all mostly in the vein of smallish government, business friendly conservatism. Not necessarily my favorite, but not a dealbreaker. Now they’re tacking hard right on social issues, threatening to cripple our quite good public univ…

Yes, I'm similar. I don't mind the red states because they are relatively low tax and they don't really do anything legislatively, which is fine by me. A lot of GOP governors seem to have gone off the deep end at the state level lately; I'm not really sure why.

DeSantis, for the most part, was your typical classic GOP governor in his first term. Florida is usually a red/blue state that leans a little red. They really went off the rails his second term though.

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