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One million cancel broadband as living costs rise

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Re: One million cancel broadband as living costs rise

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Post by hinkley »

jameshush wrote: post #153

Visiting family in the UK for the first time in about five years. Costs here are _way_ higher than I remember. I bought three hamburgers, three drinks, and two large pops at a burger shop here, the total was 48 GBP (about $60 USD). This was at Five Guys. I couldn't believe it. I visited my co-worker in the UK, and over some beers, he mentioned he's getting taxed at 48-50% on top of this. Also 20% VAT on regular shopp…

Pretty sure five guys here is about that expensive. Haven’t been in a while. Might remedy that

Re: One million cancel broadband as living costs rise

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Post by ars »

uoaei wrote: post #107
jarym wrote: post #96

And 3 million depend on food banks. Things are getting tough for lots of people and that's with extremely high levels of employment. Not sure this will go well if there is a recession that causes the jobless rate to increase.

Employment metrics make less sense now that poorly-paid gig work is ubiquitous. Just because you "have a job" doesn't mean you'll be able to afford basic necessities.

> poorly-paid gig work

The gig workers I know do it because they like the money, it's the best money available to them. So I don't know about the "poorly-paid" part, there's so much demand for gig work people complain they can't find enough of it.

Re: One million cancel broadband as living costs rise

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Post by rcarr »

monk_e_boy wrote: post #50
el_oni wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

House prices are awful, and with the current mortgage rates it makes it even harder. Last July when we first started looking at what sort of deposit we would need and how much mortgage payments would be it looked like we would be spending an additional £400 a month (which is fine, I wouldn't have to save for a house after all). But since the catastrophic economic policies of our shortest term prime minisiter we would…

And who is hoovering up those expensive houses? Not the middle class. Rich folk are investing in housing and renting it out. It's crazy.

Feudalism 2.0

Re: One million cancel broadband as living costs rise

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Post by zabzonk »

jameshush wrote: post #153

Visiting family in the UK for the first time in about five years. Costs here are _way_ higher than I remember. I bought three hamburgers, three drinks, and two large pops at a burger shop here, the total was 48 GBP (about $60 USD). This was at Five Guys. I couldn't believe it. I visited my co-worker in the UK, and over some beers, he mentioned he's getting taxed at 48-50% on top of this. Also 20% VAT on regular shopp…

> This was at Five Guys

that's quite up-market - you would pay much less at macdonalds.

> he mentioned he's getting taxed at 48-50% on top of this

he must be earning a fair bit then 40 to 45 percent is the norm for good, middle-class salaries.

but you are right, inflation here in the uk is getting quite frightening.

Re: One million cancel broadband as living costs rise

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Post by rcarr »

HlessClaudesman wrote: post #55
monk_e_boy wrote: post #22

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Other than london and a couple of other cities, most of the country was already ranked as most deprived in Europe. Throw in Brexit, cost of living and most normal people are fucked. I'm a lecturer (5 yrs) and I'm struggling to pay my bills. We've been out on strike and nothing happened. NHS is struggling. Pay rises are around 0% for most people I know. Food inflation is around 16%. Foodbanks are struggling to feed fa…

UK was already creaking at the seems in the 2000's. I left in 2011 and have spent the last 5 years crawling up a sewer pipe of regulations trying to get my post brexit immigration sorted. Brexit was just a fantasy of better days to come that was actually pretext for a right wing power grab. And what do right wingers ultimately want? A world of red in tooth and claw capitalism with themselves as the permanent winners,…

> UK was already creaking at the seems in the 2000's. I left in 2011 and have spent the last 5 years crawling up a sewer pipe of regulations trying to get my post brexit immigration sorted.

As someone planning to leave and never come back, can you give me a brief overview of some of the shit I might not know about that I'm going to have to deal with?

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Post by rcme »

omginternets wrote: post #147
rcme wrote: post #142

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Sure, you might get away with consuming a single video stream. But you shouldn't be surprised that there is very little demand for this. A single HD video stream (1080p) can require 8 mbps. Trying to consume multiple of these, especially with a realtime protocol like WebRTC, is impossible on an ADSL connection.

I suspect there may be a fair few people in my position who would be happy to scale down. Whether or not that is actually the case is, indeed, a question for market research.

I don't think you'd be happy scaling down. You may think you'd like it, but when you can't watch a video on your phone and laptop at the same time (and that's not even talking about anyone else using WiFi in the home), you'll quickly realize why no one uses ADSL any more.

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Post by spir »

yazzku wrote: post #106
jarym wrote: post #96

And 3 million depend on food banks. Things are getting tough for lots of people and that's with extremely high levels of employment. Not sure this will go well if there is a recession that causes the jobless rate to increase.

> Things are getting tough for lots of people and that's with extremely high levels of employment. Capitalism has succeeded then.

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Post by thr-nrg »

rabuse wrote: post #152
andy_ppp wrote: post #139

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Don’t worry, everyone is suffering - we’re all in this together… For example we’re set to have the highest private jet sales on record this year https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/01/private-jet-sa... Almost as if COVID caused a huge redistribution of money from the poor to the wealthy.

All by design. Kill all small businesses by shutting them down, and get purchased by giant megacorps when they're worth nothing.

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Re: One million cancel broadband as living costs rise

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Post by mdasen »

syntaxing wrote: post #132
pitaj wrote: post #124

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How is the latency for these 5G home internet services?

Over 100ms most of the time, it worked fine for WFH when I had meetings. Terrible if you want to game.

That's rare. T-Mobile averages 53ms latency according to Ookla/Speedtest.net for multi-server latency. For wired connections, Xfinity averages 24ms, Cox 25ms, and Spectrum 31ms. So wireless does add an additional ~25ms of latency compared to wired, but 100ms is out of the ordinary.
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