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Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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" OS X Mountain Lion arrives this summer. With all-new features inspired by iPad, the Mac just keeps getting better and better. " Am I the only person that doesn't want an ipad on the desktop?

"Inspired by" doesn't mean "equal to"... I don't see any evidence that those features turn your mac into an ipad.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

#82
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope you realize that Debian and Ubuntu and most of the large distros already have this: Known, vetted packages, signed and trusted, distributed through a central database. Frankly, I think it's a great idea. People in general shouldn't be downloading and executing random binaries on their machines. I think it would be great if the major distros also refused to install unsigned binaries without explicitly being tol…

I don't think that's a very good comparison. A project in the Mac world begins and ends its life as a .app. This effort by Apple means that the vast majority of users will only see "approved" software. In the Linux world, most software begins as a .tgz, and earns packagers as it becomes more popular. There are only a few things really keeping a package out of the main Debain repositories: Being "non-free" (which take…

Well, it's down to who decides that an app is trustworthy. In the open source world, this is done through vetting by the community, whereas in Apple's case they can afford to hire people to do it. I agree that the community approach is likely to be better, but I don't think the Apple approach is inherently evil, just inefficient.

The stated goals of Apple for gatekeeping apps are practically the same as signing packages in the distros: To protect unwary users from installing malicious or broken applications. I think that's a worthy goal.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

#83
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very interesting. From the features list at the bottom: *It’s a new Mac experience in China. OS X Mountain Lion brings all-new support for many popular Chinese services. And they’re easy to set up. Mail, Contacts, and Calendar work with QQ, 163, and 126. Baidu, the leading Chinese search provider, is a built-in option in Safari. The video-sharing websites Youku and Tudou are included in the new Share Sheets, so users…

I'm surprised there wasn't a China Twitter equivalent baked in. Or do they just use Twitter?

"Sina weibo, the popular microblogging service."? "Microblogging" is the generic term for Twitter clones, is it not?

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Wow, that snuck out without much advanced fanfare (or I missed it). I first glance, the main (in fact only) feature seems to be porting several iOS apps and features (notes, reminders, game center, etc.) to Mac OS X, and syncing everything together with iCloud. There is also a Growl clone. Surprised this took so long. Then again, I personally don't like Growl, so I hope nothing depends on it being turned on. I notice…

There is also a Growl clone. Surprised this took so long. Then again, I personally don't like Growl, so I hope nothing depends on it being turned on.

It seems that Apple adopted a similar model as Notifications Center on iOS in that you can decide on a per-app basis what they can do: banner, badge, sound… See this MacWorld's screenshot: http://images.macworld.com/images/article/2012/02/notificati...

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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The thing I'm by far the most excited about is AirPlay Mirroring. If I'm reading this correctly, I'll be able to mirror anything from my Mac to my TV using an Apple TV. This will be great for watching Internet videos, going through my iPhoto library with my wife, looking at home videos, etc. All without needing a stupid cable from my couch to my TV.

The deeper iCloud integration is also intriguing. I assume this means proper syncing between documents on a Mac, iPad and iPhone. This will be a huge feature, and is currently a major stumbling block with iCloud. I want my documents to sync to my mobile devices.

Those two features alone are pretty big. Beyond that, I'm interested to here about the new APIs and anything else that has been changed under the hood.

OS X Lion has always been a little bit buggy (the latest release is pretty solid, however). I wonder if Mountain Lion will be like Snow Leopard where it tightens up a lot of things under the hood and gives us a better realization of the OS.

I'm excited for Gatekeeper for my parents and other people I know that aren't that tech savvy. This could save me a lot of headaches.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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post #16
post #7

is there a specific reason they needed to update the entire OS for this ? Most of the new features are actually apps, and the rest wouldn't really justify a major version change.

Well, Ubuntu does this every 6 months. They also pick another silly name every 12. Maybe Ubuntu is becoming the role model here?

The major difference is that with Ubuntu, apps and the OS/desktop share the same release cycle.

I hope that could be decoupled, making life easier for application authors: http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/application_quality_assurance_in_l...

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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But where is the Mac Touch hardware ? you could see for a while where touch was it and we have these nice laptops and big iMac displays but we will use a mouse ?! I really want my next imac to be a docking station with a tear away tablet Windows 8 is definately banking having this sort of hardware in laptops and displays being available. You dont do Metro on the desktop unless you think that kind of hardware will be…

I don't think the technology exists to make large tablets ergonomically feasible. In order for the tablet portion to be light enough to casually pick up and carry around, it would have to be not much larger than an iPad, which is to say, less than half the smallest reasonable screen size for a desktop.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

#89
post #7

is there a specific reason they needed to update the entire OS for this ? Most of the new features are actually apps, and the rest wouldn't really justify a major version change.

This is an early preview. We don't know about all the new APIs and changes under the hood. Presumably there is a lot going on with the additional iCloud support.

One of these years Apple is going to discontinue carbon API support and go 64-bit only. I doubt this release is it, but those kinds of under-the-hood features are not the kinds of things that you would talk about at this point. We'll learn more at WWDC.

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