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Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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I'm not sure if this matters or not, but the submitted title calls it "Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion", and 10.8 is indeed the version number I would expect; yet this number is nowhere to be found, neither on Apple's page nor in Gruber's announcement. Instead, it's just called "OS X Mountain Lion" everywhere. I wonder if they dropped the version number, or are downplaying it? But for what reason?

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Wow, that snuck out without much advanced fanfare (or I missed it). I first glance, the main (in fact only) feature seems to be porting several iOS apps and features (notes, reminders, game center, etc.) to Mac OS X, and syncing everything together with iCloud. There is also a Growl clone. Surprised this took so long. Then again, I personally don't like Growl, so I hope nothing depends on it being turned on. I notice…

Growl gets a lot of things wrong and stagnated for years with (until recently) no sign of improvement. It was ripe for disruption. Maybe Apple's implementation will be less depressing.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Feature rundown: http://www.apple.com/macosx/mountain-lion/features.html One of the more interesting bits is at the - they're supporting a bunch of China specific services.

Very interesting. From the features list at the bottom: *It’s a new Mac experience in China. OS X Mountain Lion brings all-new support for many popular Chinese services. And they’re easy to set up. Mail, Contacts, and Calendar work with QQ, 163, and 126. Baidu, the leading Chinese search provider, is a built-in option in Safari. The video-sharing websites Youku and Tudou are included in the new Share Sheets, so users…

I'm surprised there wasn't a China Twitter equivalent baked in. Or do they just use Twitter?

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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The default is the middle one - no unsigned apps, but they don't have to come from the App Store. Apple is going to start offering "Gatekeeper" certificates for non-App Store developers. The idea being that they can revoke a certificate if an app turns out to be malicious.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

they are adopting a 1-year release cycle.

Fascinating. I'm still on 10.6: no compelling reason to upgrade. By the time I _do_ upgrade I'm in for some future shock: like dropping a Victorian gentleman into Haight-Ashbury in 1968.

My work laptop is on 10.5.8...

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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is there a specific reason they needed to update the entire OS for this ? Most of the new features are actually apps, and the rest wouldn't really justify a major version change.

Well, Ubuntu does this every 6 months. They also pick another silly name every 12. Maybe Ubuntu is becoming the role model here?

Every 6-month Ubuntu release has a silly name.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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It seems like the OS is either defaulting to allowing only only App Store applications or at least only (Apple-)signed applications: http://www.apple.com/macosx/mountain-lion/security.html It's still possible to turn this off, but I have a feeling that we should enjoy our freedom to run GNU grep instead of BSD grep for as long as it lasts.

I wonder how long it'll take crackers to get their hands on a master signing key.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, Ubuntu does this every 6 months. They also pick another silly name every 12. Maybe Ubuntu is becoming the role model here?

Every 6-month Ubuntu release has a silly name.

Actually, yes. Comes from using LTS-releases only :).

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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It seems like the OS is either defaulting to allowing only only App Store applications or at least only (Apple-)signed applications: http://www.apple.com/macosx/mountain-lion/security.html It's still possible to turn this off, but I have a feeling that we should enjoy our freedom to run GNU grep instead of BSD grep for as long as it lasts.

Read what Gruber writes about that Gatekeep feature:

My favorite Mountain Lion feature, though, is one that hardly even has a visible interface. Apple is calling it “Gatekeeper”. It’s a system whereby developers can sign up for free-of-charge Apple developer IDs which they can then use to cryptographically sign their applications. If an app is found to be malware, Apple can revoke that developer’s certificate, rendering the app (along with any others from the same developer) inert on any Mac where it’s been installed. In effect, it offers all the security benefits of the App Store, except for the process of approving apps by Apple. Users have three choices which type of apps can run on Mountain Lion:

  * Only those from the App Store
  * Only those from the App Store or which are signed by a developer ID
  * Any app, whether signed or unsigned
The default for this setting is, I say, exactly right: the one in the middle, disallowing only unsigned apps. This default setting benefits users by increasing practical security, and also benefits developers, preserving the freedom to ship whatever software they want for the Mac, with no approval process.
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