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Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Dashcams should 100% be required in every car. Too many accidents are a he-said-she-said situation, sometimes without any impartial witnesses.

I read that you get a nontrivial discount on your car insurance in Russia if you have a dashcam. So basically everyone there has one, which is why it seems like all the dashcam videos on the internet take place in Russia. I think that sort of system makes sense. We shouldn't require dashcam, but any policy which reduces expensive he-said-she-said litigation in our society should be encouraged. I suspect we'd find a p…

Insurance companies already offer you “discounts” (or pretend to) if you install their pervasive tracking dongle. How they use that data is NOT to the consumers benefit. When I was in school, an insurance company (idk which one but it’s in Cleveland area) pitched us to work for them on this system. They laughed to us about all the fools who give them data. They bill you more if you travel through intersections with lights (every intersection has a risk score), take left turns on your way home from work, etc. - they had some insane amount of data. If they shared the safety data with everyone then I’d be more ok with it. I wish I could ask Apple/Google maps to route me “safely”.

I was going to refuse my spy dongle, but they offered a >80% discount. Everyone has a price, but I wish the government disincentivized this behavior.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Hm, let's see: Do I want to wear out the flash memory in an $800 phone, or get a $150 dash cam? This comment applies to Android phones that wouldn't let this thing write to a micro-SD card, of course.

You've worn out the memory in your phone before? How do you pull that off?

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Not sure about negative comments here. You dont like it, dont use the feature! Its not like Google is forcing you to use this. I bet people will celebrate this feature when Apple rolls around implementing it two years from now. I for one, look forward to using this feature on my Pixel as I live in a city where drivers are very aggressive and in general have a disregard for following the rules. I have been in an accid…

I prefer to use my $25 dashcam on my car (I did my research to find a pretty decent one). This dashcams always recording and mounted.

Could you pass on the results of your research? I don't think I found a dashcam at that price range, and I was actually looking to use an old smartphone as my dashcam, but it didn't seem like a good solution as 1. I would have to start the app manually whenever the phone powers up, and 2. I wouldn't want to leave the phone in a holder in the car all the time as it could invite thieves.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Hm, let's see: Do I want to wear out the flash memory in an $800 phone, or get a $150 dash cam? This comment applies to Android phones that wouldn't let this thing write to a micro-SD card, of course.

You've worn out the memory in your phone before? How do you pull that off?

I've never worn out NAND flash on my phone, but I'm not sure if I record 3h of video everyday. 16Mbps * 3h = 20GiB, so 6 TBW for 300 days)

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Sounds like an excellent way to wear out the flash memory. Getting rid of SD cards is the worst thing to happen to phones in a while.

It'll probably be an in-memory circular buffer of the last n minutes, and then you get to save it if anything happens

Circular buffer still worn out NAND flash

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Just found out that my Pixel 7 has, so deeply hidden I don't find it again easily, a check box limiting / allowing access to car data. I didn't turn it on... Well, there is a long weekend coming up, maybe if I find time despite the huge home project backlog to install CalxyOS, I hate it that I cannot trust my phone to not spy on me and my activities despite everything being turned of. After all, some settings changed…

Since the main reason not to use grapheneOS is that it only supports Pixels and you already have one, you might also consider it. Install feels almost suspiciously easy coming from the likes of cyanogenmod. https://grapheneos.org/

>Install feels almost suspiciously easy coming from the likes of cyanogenmod.

this is a great teaser statement

I miss the days of having to open 9 xda threads to figure out how to install some ROM. That whole scene seems to have died off as Android puts up more walls to increase reliance on locked down services

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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> As soon as car manufacturers implement dash cams, government will regulate it to require that it records the speed of the car as well Why would a camera force this regulation when every car already has a ... speedometer?

Does a speedometer record how fast you were going 1 minute before the crash.

Google Maps records everything and sends it to the cloud to log your entire journey while using the app. They've made it into a feature to show "average speed" and similar details in the Maps app.

They have your speed, where you began and where you were going. Way more damning.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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My dashcam was priced like a new iPhone but the recording quality is superb, licence plates of a car 10m away is clearly readable.

Do tell!

you can buy comma.ai hardware, its base use is "dashcam"

you can, at your discretion, load self-driving software (openpilot), which can take over driving for you, in addition to maintaining dashcam footage

they have a subscription that will store footage in the cloud too, iirc

https://github.com/commaai/openpilot

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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FTA: > We also wonder about how Personal Safety will be able to do this type of always-on recording without generating excess heat, especially if your phone needs to be mounted in a position that’s likely to see a lot of direct sunlight. That's what I immediately thought of. I can't see this working too well unless they solve the overheating issues. I had my Google Pixel 7 Pro shut down due to overheating, on a reaso…

My pixel 4 died because of poor heat management.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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No need for a system one if there's an app... But... Is there a FLOSS dashcam for Android? Nothing that I could see on F-droid when I looked a few months back.

A quick search brought up CosyDVR on f-droid. Might not play nice with new Android versions, though.

That's a non working app. Any working suggestions? Cheers.
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