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Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by thriftwy »

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #178
theandrewbailey wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After watching dashcam crash videos for 5 years, I finally got around to getting a dashcam for myself (not that I intend to star in any of those videos, mind you). From those crash videos, I've learned to never turn left in Russia. You'll get t-boned almost every time.

> Don't turn left in Russia. You'll get t-boned almost every time. I'm skeptical. How does this happen if I yield to traffic that's already on the road?

Somebody decides to speed past you in the wrong lane as you try to turn?

Otherwise, it's not as dangerous as dashcam videos make it look. What's the opposite of survivor bias?

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

thriftwy wrote: post #181
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Don't turn left in Russia. You'll get t-boned almost every time. I'm skeptical. How does this happen if I yield to traffic that's already on the road?

Somebody decides to speed past you in the wrong lane as you try to turn? Otherwise, it's not as dangerous as dashcam videos make it look. What's the opposite of survivor bias?

Oh, I see. I didn't lower my scumbag bar enough, I guess. Yeah, that's nuts.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by copperx »

cwkoss wrote: post #156
paranoidrobot wrote: post #12

FTA: > We also wonder about how Personal Safety will be able to do this type of always-on recording without generating excess heat, especially if your phone needs to be mounted in a position that’s likely to see a lot of direct sunlight. That's what I immediately thought of. I can't see this working too well unless they solve the overheating issues. I had my Google Pixel 7 Pro shut down due to overheating, on a reaso…

Car phone mount with a heat sink on the back could help a good bit.

Mounting it right behind an A/C vent might be much better.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by barbazoo »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #174
barbazoo wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is in no way interested in traffic safety and that's the reason I despise them for playing around in this field. For example, they encourage active use of the phone while driving by asking you to report and confirm/deny reports of "speed traps". It's similar to Tesla tinkering with self driving and using everyone around us as beta testers.

So what are you implying here with the quotes on "speed traps"? There are very real speed traps on roads, and they endanger drivers in exchange for generating ticket revenue.

> There are very real speed traps on roads, and they endanger drivers in exchange for generating ticket revenue.

Not if you drive the speed limit or less. Google endangers drivers (especially other drivers) by implicitly encouraging rapid deceleration at one of these "traps".

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by [deleted] »

littledot5566 wrote: post #169
danans wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As soon as car manufacturers implement dash cams, government will regulate it to require that it records the speed of the car as well Why would a camera force this regulation when every car already has a ... speedometer?

Does a speedometer record how fast you were going 1 minute before the crash.

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Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by mrguyorama »

BoorishBears wrote: post #143
wnevets wrote: post #138

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> I bet people will celebrate this feature when Apple rolls around implementing it two years from now. Not only will it be celebrated but people will claim its revolutionary

Apple would never put iPhones up to something this low-brow. This is the company that put a charging port under a mouse so you wouldn't leave it hooked up all day: they're not going to encourage you to stick your phone in a creaky phone mount in hot sunlight all day so you can do a bad dashcam impression.

In Apple world you don't need your phone to be a dashcam because you can afford stupid accidents and other expenses that mostly screw over the poors

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by mrguyorama »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #174
barbazoo wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is in no way interested in traffic safety and that's the reason I despise them for playing around in this field. For example, they encourage active use of the phone while driving by asking you to report and confirm/deny reports of "speed traps". It's similar to Tesla tinkering with self driving and using everyone around us as beta testers.

So what are you implying here with the quotes on "speed traps"? There are very real speed traps on roads, and they endanger drivers in exchange for generating ticket revenue.

Wait, explain to me how a cop on the side of the road with a radar gun "endangers drivers"? If someone ahead of you slowing down before they get to a cop causes you danger, you were following unjustifiably close.

There are lots of things that can happen on a highway to take a car from 80mph to 0mph in just a few feet (very heavy things to run into) without warning, and if you don't have enough distance to react to that and stop, you are following too close.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by mrguyorama »

barbazoo wrote: post #184
Dylan16807 wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what are you implying here with the quotes on "speed traps"? There are very real speed traps on roads, and they endanger drivers in exchange for generating ticket revenue.

> There are very real speed traps on roads, and they endanger drivers in exchange for generating ticket revenue. Not if you drive the speed limit or less. Google endangers drivers (especially other drivers) by implicitly encouraging rapid deceleration at one of these "traps".

If someone slowing ahead of you puts you in danger, you were following too close. The parent was talking about encouraging users to use their phone to report the speed traps is a cause of distracted driving, which it is, which is dangerous.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by theandrewbailey »

thriftwy wrote: post #181
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Don't turn left in Russia. You'll get t-boned almost every time. I'm skeptical. How does this happen if I yield to traffic that's already on the road?

Somebody decides to speed past you in the wrong lane as you try to turn? Otherwise, it's not as dangerous as dashcam videos make it look. What's the opposite of survivor bias?

> What's the opposite of survivor bias?

Confirmation bias, maybe.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by mrguyorama »

leviathant wrote: post #147
seanalltogether wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As soon as car manufacturers implement dash cams, government will regulate it to require that it records the speed of the car as well, which I think owners will hate and make them want to avoid those models of cars. I think it's gonna end up as damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

Without government influence, auto manufacturers already have "black boxes" that record speed and other telemetry. I'm very conscious of the erosion of privacy, but I'm a 40-something computer nerd. People actively, deliberately record themselves doing crimes of all stripes and post it to public social networks. In the states, there's rampant violation of vehicle-related laws and minimal enforcement (fake temporary t…

If you have the app for your auto insurance on your phone, they are probably attempting to track your "misbehavior" through that, in the same way they do with their offerings that use GPS enabled ODBII dongles. Unless it is explicitly, extremely illegal in an execs go to prison kind of way, they will do it.
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