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Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by SoftTalker »

barbazoo wrote: post #139
Bhilai wrote: post #122

Not sure about negative comments here. You dont like it, dont use the feature! Its not like Google is forcing you to use this. I bet people will celebrate this feature when Apple rolls around implementing it two years from now. I for one, look forward to using this feature on my Pixel as I live in a city where drivers are very aggressive and in general have a disregard for following the rules. I have been in an accid…

Google is in no way interested in traffic safety and that's the reason I despise them for playing around in this field. For example, they encourage active use of the phone while driving by asking you to report and confirm/deny reports of "speed traps". It's similar to Tesla tinkering with self driving and using everyone around us as beta testers.

> they encourage active use of the phone while driving by asking you to report and confirm/deny reports of "speed traps"

Apple Maps does this also.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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SoftTalker wrote: post #161
barbazoo wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is in no way interested in traffic safety and that's the reason I despise them for playing around in this field. For example, they encourage active use of the phone while driving by asking you to report and confirm/deny reports of "speed traps". It's similar to Tesla tinkering with self driving and using everyone around us as beta testers.

> they encourage active use of the phone while driving by asking you to report and confirm/deny reports of "speed traps" Apple Maps does this also.

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Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by barbazoo »

SoftTalker wrote: post #161
barbazoo wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is in no way interested in traffic safety and that's the reason I despise them for playing around in this field. For example, they encourage active use of the phone while driving by asking you to report and confirm/deny reports of "speed traps". It's similar to Tesla tinkering with self driving and using everyone around us as beta testers.

> they encourage active use of the phone while driving by asking you to report and confirm/deny reports of "speed traps" Apple Maps does this also.

That's a bummer

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by SoftTalker »

oh_sigh wrote: post #103
bagacrap wrote: post #96

Why don't cars come with these by default yet? I have two backup cameras on a 7 year old entry level Honda but no integrated dashcam.

The simple answer is that backup cameras are required by regulation for safety, whereas dashcams don't increase safety.

Reversing cameras don't increase safety on my cars, because I still turn my head and use the mirrors. Old habits die hard.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by mcast »

SoftTalker wrote: post #164
oh_sigh wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The simple answer is that backup cameras are required by regulation for safety, whereas dashcams don't increase safety.

Reversing cameras don't increase safety on my cars, because I still turn my head and use the mirrors. Old habits die hard.

You would still have a major blind spot if a child or small animal is directly behind your car. The NHTSA estimated it would save over 70 lives per year (an underestimate), which is invaluable considering the small cost.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by pphysch »

awestroke wrote: post #89
ShadowBanThis01 wrote: post #53

Hm, let's see: Do I want to wear out the flash memory in an $800 phone, or get a $150 dash cam? This comment applies to Android phones that wouldn't let this thing write to a micro-SD card, of course.

It'll probably be an in-memory circular buffer of the last n minutes, and then you get to save it if anything happens

+1 and copy buffer to storage immediately if the gyro detects a abnormally sharp movement

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by judge2020 »

factormeta wrote: post #160
leetcrew wrote: post #115

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I do actually have a dashcam built into my personal vehicle. I have mixed feelings about it, but overall I think the benefits outweigh the risks. that said, the risks are not to be taken lightly. even if the recording is only stored locally, it can be seized by authorities or subpoenaed later. you can't guarantee it will only be used to settle minor traffic disputes. like I said, I'm (mostly) happy to make that decis…

>but having the government require people to collect evidence against themselves is a hard no from me. Not an expert on US constitution, but Isn't that a violation?

Driving on public roads is a privilege, not a right, which is why it's legal for them to institutes requirements like "must have insurance" or "must have a driver's license".

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by sacrosancty »

mschuster91 wrote: post #108
judge2020 wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dashcams should 100% be required in every car. Too many accidents are a he-said-she-said situation, sometimes without any impartial witnesses.

Everyone should be free to choose if they have a car that automatically generates tons of evidence against themselves that the cops just have to seize. It's bad enough with eCall and the trend to insurances requiring recording blackboxes (or modern cars doing that all on their own), but dashcams? I can already see police demanding laws allowing them to force you to hand them over access to the footage at a roadside t…

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Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by littledot5566 »

danans wrote: post #141
seanalltogether wrote: post #140

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As soon as car manufacturers implement dash cams, government will regulate it to require that it records the speed of the car as well, which I think owners will hate and make them want to avoid those models of cars. I think it's gonna end up as damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

> As soon as car manufacturers implement dash cams, government will regulate it to require that it records the speed of the car as well Why would a camera force this regulation when every car already has a ... speedometer?

Does a speedometer record how fast you were going 1 minute before the crash.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by yamtaddle »

AHOHA wrote: post #121
pjc50 wrote: post #61

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Fine, I'll tape a knife to the dashcam in case of emergency. (this is a joke, HN)

Sounds very British!

I like this British musician named Jake Bugg. He's got a song about going to this house party at some criminal's house and one line is about a friend taking him aside and warning him, gravely, that everyone there's got a knife. It almost ruins the song as an American, because the line's just hilarious. "Everyone has a knife? What, you mean like literally any gathering of adults whatsoever that doesn't have bouncers patting people down and/or metal detectors? Everyone has a knife at the grocery store for god's sake!"

(Not literally everyone, of course, but it's entirely normal, non-threatening, and fairly common to carry a pocket knife or knife-including-multitool in the US—anywhere you go that's not screening for metal objects, some of the people there probably have knives, it's not on anyone's radar as something to be worried about. It's like being warned that everyone's wearing underwear, or something)

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