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Wizards of the Coast Raids YouTuber’s House to Take Back Magic Cards

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I get that the youtuber just wanted no trouble, but he may have really screwed himself by not insisting on a waver of liability, agreement that the existing videos can stay up (or, alternatively, compensation to replace the lost income from them), and compensation for his costs at a minimum. Handing WOTC's paid thugs the material probably didn't do anything to reduce his risk and took away the little leverage he had…

Easy to say from your armchair and not when the gestapo are at your door. If thugs appear at my door demanding a $50 item or else, yeah....I will probably just give it to them. See if I can claw it back later.

  The Pinkerton employees on the other hand, were less cordial to the YouTuber. Cannon told Kotaku over email that they had threatened to get the county sheriff involved if he did not return the MtG cards. They cited statures with punishments such as a $200,000 fine and up to a decade of jail time.

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Wizards of the Coast seems to be on a rampage to do as much damage to their brand as possible. Weren't they pretty beloved by fans before some of these more recent actions?

It's like they've turned into the Comcast of table top games.

What do they really have beyond their brand? People can play other games.

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Sounds like the buyer should have ASKED for the sheriff.... Private police threatening fines and jail time? Let them say that with law enforcement around for any follow up lawsuit. A purchase was made and the wrong product arrived at his door.. the seller had legitimate reason to have the product, but broke a street date... The customer did not ask for unreleased product... Sounds like the dealer is at fault, but not…

He could've closed the door in their faces and there would be nothing they could do about it. The company relied on theatrics and false threats to get back a legitimately purchased product.

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So, is this guy done with Magic, or will he keep buying and promoting their products? WoC have been known assholes for years now, I would think people would figure it out by now.

I used to play MTG 20-15 years ago. I do not play anymore because of the constantly evolving playset, mechanics, and rules that I could not keep up with. I'm even more put off lately by the seemingly-cash-grab of incorporating other games/words such as Dungeons and Dragons and I think Lord of the Rings.

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The most interesting part of this (other than the completely unnecesary, tone-deaf corporate thuggery) is the involvement of the Pinkertons because many people don't know the history of the Pinkerton National Detective Agency, which was really prominent in the mid to late 19th century. At this time, the US had no real Federal law enforcement to speak of. That came later, modeled after the Pinkertons. Fun fact: the FB…

"miscegenation"

Interestingly enough, the Mann Act was used to prosecute a high-and-mighty in the KKK: https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/stories/2004/march/kk...

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So, is this guy done with Magic, or will he keep buying and promoting their products? WoC have been known assholes for years now, I would think people would figure it out by now.

I used to play MTG 20-15 years ago. I do not play anymore because of the constantly evolving playset, mechanics, and rules that I could not keep up with. I'm even more put off lately by the seemingly-cash-grab of incorporating other games/words such as Dungeons and Dragons and I think Lord of the Rings.

> I do not play anymore because of the constantly evolving playset, mechanics, and rules that I could not keep up with.

Yep. I took a couple of years off in the late 90s and there was no going back.

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Sounds like the buyer should have ASKED for the sheriff.... Private police threatening fines and jail time? Let them say that with law enforcement around for any follow up lawsuit. A purchase was made and the wrong product arrived at his door.. the seller had legitimate reason to have the product, but broke a street date... The customer did not ask for unreleased product... Sounds like the dealer is at fault, but not…

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Sounds like the buyer should have ASKED for the sheriff.... Private police threatening fines and jail time? Let them say that with law enforcement around for any follow up lawsuit. A purchase was made and the wrong product arrived at his door.. the seller had legitimate reason to have the product, but broke a street date... The customer did not ask for unreleased product... Sounds like the dealer is at fault, but not…

He could've closed the door in their faces and there would be nothing they could do about it. The company relied on theatrics and false threats to get back a legitimately purchased product.

Could've, but theatrics are used because it's effective. A surprise morning visit by professional intimidators arguing that you "do what we say or you might spend the next decade in jail" can override a lot of logical reasoning.
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