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U.S. Depression Rates Reach New Highs

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Re: U.S. Depression Rates Reach New Highs

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Probably a vastly unpopular opinion in HN but don’t we think sitting at home alone all day, working remote, could be related? Humans evolved to be physically social, is 100% remote really the right direction for American society?

I just think we need more coworking though and field offices. Commutes need to die.

Re: U.S. Depression Rates Reach New Highs

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post #56

Probably a vastly unpopular opinion in HN but don’t we think sitting at home alone all day, working remote, could be related? Humans evolved to be physically social, is 100% remote really the right direction for American society?

Working remotely doesn't make you sit at home all day. It doesn't force you to not socialise either (at work or after).

The way the work is organised and other factors that make home and surroundings not social for many people may be a factor. But looking at the remote work specifically here feels like holding the wrong end of the stick.

(source: Working remotely, having nice chats with coworkers, inviting others once a week to my home for work, meeting people otherwise)

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In the last few years inflation has hurt the fuck out of all but the richest Americans. Financial stress leads to depression. Add both political parties are constantly telling us the other side is ruining everything and it's just piling it on. A recession is here/coming.

Why does the US have higher depression rates than any country in Africa then? Aren't there a lot of people there under financial stress?

I've not been to Africa, but several other less developed parts of the world and my take is that it's different being poor in these types of places rather than in the US.

In some countries, other people don't have much of anything, so people just kind of help each other out, others don't judge you for being short on cash and people even tolerate a bit of hustling. Kindness is important.

I find developing countries also often have a kind of homogeneous culture with shared beliefs and practices, which makes everyone feel like they're part of a community.

The USA puts money on a pedestal like nowhere I've ever seen before, ever, so not having money is bad in the USA. We can't even get healthcare without money. It's quite tragic.

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I'm curious how much of this is related to doomerism and heightened access to the 24-hour news cycle.

Cal Newport touches on this in Digital Minimalism. But the Media's need to produce incessant clickbait articles (to generate ad revenue) contributes to this. Basically, avoid News Media and social media.

Re: U.S. Depression Rates Reach New Highs

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post #56

Probably a vastly unpopular opinion in HN but don’t we think sitting at home alone all day, working remote, could be related? Humans evolved to be physically social, is 100% remote really the right direction for American society?

Probably true for people whose work is their primary source of social interaction which might be the bigger issue. Maybe it's the way we live that's against our nature, not the way we work.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ultimately individuals are responsible for their own emotions. There are unjust elements in society and there have always been unjust elements in society. Where you lay the blame is besides the point in this discussion about depression. People need more effective coping mechanisms. Even with little to no money, happiness is possible for people around the world. Why then is one of the world's richest and most producti…

Would you say the same to a black enslaved man in the 18th century? Or to a Jewish awaiting his death in a nazi concentration prison? Or to a Palestinian deported from his home? There can always be rules or laws that are directly responsible to people suffering and depression.

No, I wouldn't say that at all. I wouldn't compare working in an Amazon fulfillment center or delivering Uber eats to those scenarios either. In either case I'd encourage the individual to uplift himself and transcend those problems. To accept that the world is unfair and to do something to better their life, regardless of the circumstances. In both cases I wouldn't say it is easy or belittle their struggles, but obviously escaping slavery is more difficult than many modern laments.

Re: U.S. Depression Rates Reach New Highs

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The rates of people diagnosed with depression. Things that were once taboos, had stigma attached to them, or were poorly defined may once have been more often kept under wraps. See ADHD or ASD diagnosis rates, for example.

I think this is false, as the suicide rate has also gone up.

It's right in the article: "The percentage of U.S. adults who report having been diagnosed with depression at some point in their lifetime has reached 29.0%"

To your point on suicide, though. The OECD has some data: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_the_United_States#/... .. It's hard to say. US is flat. Norway is up a bit. Most countries are down or flat. I don't see any particular upward trend over the past 60 years.

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