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Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by Pomfers »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #30
borissk wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Exynos based Tensor, made by Samsung is very hot. Google should've collaborated with QC or MT and used TSMC to make their SOC.

Why are chips made by samsung vs tsmc are any different?

Samsung's foundries have struggled for the past few years to achieve their targets, whereas TSMC has continued improving at their projected rates. TSMC's process is now significantly ahead of Samsung's, such that the same designs are better on TSMC. These improvements are along the lines of fewer defects, higher switching speeds, less leakage, etc.

The Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 was made on Samsung's fabs. The 8+ Gen 1 is the same design on TSMC.

To be clear, this is for Samsung's processor foundries. Their DRAM and flash memory still appear to be industry leaders.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by hef19898 »

hackernewds wrote: post #36
lern_too_spel wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They already collect tracking data with Google Maps and already use car engine type to estimate gas usage on different routes.

Now they can collect not just yours, but also other people's license plate movements and facial recognition. It's great producing eyes for Google everywhere - which is why the Ring was worth a billion $ for Amazon.

Just found out that my Pixel 7 has, so deeply hidden I don't find it again easily, a check box limiting / allowing access to car data. I didn't turn it on...

Well, there is a long weekend coming up, maybe if I find time despite the huge home project backlog to install CalxyOS, I hate it that I cannot trust my phone to not spy on me and my activities despite everything being turned of. After all, some settings changed after various app updates.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by FormFollowsFunc »

borissk wrote: post #24
gbil wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you can have direct sunlight heating up the phone on a day that AC is not needed this issue needs to be handled by the device and not with external resources

Buy a white phone and don't put a case on it.

Or buy a white case. That’s what I did and it seemed to work, as a Sat Nav device at least. Not sure about recording video which will produce more heat.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by trishmapow2 »

usrusr wrote: post #40
borissk wrote: post #28

Ideally it should record video from the main, ultrawide and the front cameras. The ultrawide in case something happens out of the view of the main camera and the front cam in case something hits you from the back (if the phone is mounted so it has visibility through the back window).

Phones have multiple lenses and sensors, but they don't have multiple sets of sensor readout capacity. Even when the theoretical maximum pixel througput (as in biggest sensor the SoC can be paired with) is big enough on paper to do all sensors in a time division multiplex, I wouldn't be surprised if the switch wasn't fast enough. (personally I'd love to have a camera app that did all-lens release for stills, I'm of t…

Samsung has directors view which records front and back simultaneously. Would be surprised if flagship devices can't do this due to hardware limitations.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by agnosticmantis »

blackoil wrote: post #16
paranoidrobot wrote: post #12

FTA: > We also wonder about how Personal Safety will be able to do this type of always-on recording without generating excess heat, especially if your phone needs to be mounted in a position that’s likely to see a lot of direct sunlight. That's what I immediately thought of. I can't see this working too well unless they solve the overheating issues. I had my Google Pixel 7 Pro shut down due to overheating, on a reaso…

A mount that moves AC air directly to phone should work.

Assuming it’s not a snowy winter day in Michigan… ;)

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by szszrk »

thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #2

"a new feature called “Dashcam” that, as the name suggests, records video (and audio, optionally) while you are driving. If your phone is mounted in the right spot, the recording should provide helpful information in the event of an accident or other unexpected situation." A perfect way to collect information about your driving habits and vehicle. Insurance companies, auto sales and maintenance companies, and others…

There is plenty navigation/mapsinsurance or police-detectioninsurance cooperation here in Poland. It analyzes your driving and offers discounts based on that.

There is also plenty of dedicated dashcam apps and functions in map apps so I'm curious why this Pixel addon brings attention.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by Yizahi »

borissk wrote: post #25
paranoidrobot wrote: post #12

FTA: > We also wonder about how Personal Safety will be able to do this type of always-on recording without generating excess heat, especially if your phone needs to be mounted in a position that’s likely to see a lot of direct sunlight. That's what I immediately thought of. I can't see this working too well unless they solve the overheating issues. I had my Google Pixel 7 Pro shut down due to overheating, on a reaso…

The Exynos based Tensor, made by Samsung is very hot. Google should've collaborated with QC or MT and used TSMC to make their SOC.

Snapdragons overheat just fine too, it's not a unique issue. Also what is actually overheating most in this scenario is not the SoC but a display. Open your phone of any brand and model and walk around with it unlocked in the bright summer sunny day outside. The screen will work at max brightness and would become insanely hot from the internal heat in very short time span.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by AHOHA »

seized wrote: post #34
AHOHA wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will check the garage CCTV cam.

Except for malls, grocery stores, events, train station, movie theaters... Work...

If you live in an area with a high probability of getting your car stolen, you better protect your investment properly and install a gnss tracker, not just it is more reliable, accurate, and use way less data on your cellular plan, but also you can hide it and conceal it in a location (like near the engine) that you have a better chance to find your car before the tracker is found, unlike a dashcam, that will obviously consume more data, but also the first thing will be thrown out of the window after the successful robbery.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by michaelt »

h0l0cube wrote: post #5
AHOHA wrote: post #3

The concept separation of concerns I apply every where, and I like my dashcam not connected to any cloud, if I ever needed a footage, I’ll just take it from the sdcard.

> I’ll just take it from the sdcard What about in the situation of a theft?

Dashcams are generally for recording collisions, rather than thefts.

After all, if you're parking in a high crime area - would you leave your smartphone on display in the front windscreen?

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by nologic01 »

thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #2

"a new feature called “Dashcam” that, as the name suggests, records video (and audio, optionally) while you are driving. If your phone is mounted in the right spot, the recording should provide helpful information in the event of an accident or other unexpected situation." A perfect way to collect information about your driving habits and vehicle. Insurance companies, auto sales and maintenance companies, and others…

Car companies already advertise new models as fully Googlyfied (as if that is a good thing) so when informed people lament that a large part of the population are basically convenience seeking, gullible imbeciles its not far from the truth.

That such an important aspect of our lives as privacy would come to be trampled so easily is just mind boggling.

Wisdom of the crowds my a*. The only way you can prevent organized corporate abuse is to have very empowered and savvy regulators that somehow truly work for the interests of the many.

A highly non-trivial catch-22 given that in a democracy they can only draw legitimacy for their actions by appealing to the same inane and manipulated multitudes.

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