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Re: Updating our inactive account policies

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I'm seeing a lot of criticism here in the comments, but what's the alternative for free accounts? If you're not using it, how long is Google (a for-profit company) supposed to hold onto your data for free? 100 years? 50 years? 15 years? 2 years seems pretty reasonable to me for something provided by a for-profit corporation. And as other reporting has noted, they're not deleting YouTube videos (makes sense, since whi…

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Re: Updating our inactive account policies

#142

I'm seeing a lot of criticism here in the comments, but what's the alternative for free accounts? If you're not using it, how long is Google (a for-profit company) supposed to hold onto your data for free? 100 years? 50 years? 15 years? 2 years seems pretty reasonable to me for something provided by a for-profit corporation. And as other reporting has noted, they're not deleting YouTube videos (makes sense, since whi…

I found out yesterday that my Google Voice number was no longer mine. No inactivity warning email like I had received in the past, no notice at all, I just tried to Zelle some money to myself (testing the service with $1, thankfully) and was surprised to find out the number wasn't mine anymore. I wanted to contact Google to ask if there was any hope of getting it back, but I couldn't find a way to reach them. The Voice app lists a developer email, apps-help@google.com , which returns this message: "You have emailed an address that is no longer being monitored."

I understand it's a free service, that I'm not a paying customer, that I was wasting a resource by not actively using the service.

It's distressing to be given something by someone with power, to use the thing and in small ways rely on it and enjoy it, then suddenly it's taken away. I hope every inactive person gets their notices before they lose their data. I didn't for my Voice number and now I'm trying to sort out all the services I have tied to it.

Again, I understand Google has all the power. I had no leverage and shouldn't have had any expectations for how I'd be treated. However the amount of goodwill I have towards Google is rapidly approaching zero. I've read a thousand messages here saying variations of, "don't rely on Google, you will get hosed eventually". This (deleting inactive accounts with no option to opt out) is the kind of treatment that annoys people, eventually hurts them, and turns them off of a service.

Re: Updating our inactive account policies

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Oof. The end of YouTube as we know it

> At the moment, Google is not planning to delete accounts with YouTube videos. https://9to5google.com/2023/05/16/google-account-delete/

Most comments will disappear. A disappointment: contrary to the meme, I found them informative and insightful in a broad variety of contexts. And going with them should be the last vestiges of the site's social networking era, unceremoniously, in the way of annotations, video replies, and homepages.

I'll be rolling on the floor laughing the day that Google deletes all the old videos, though. The amount of internet entrusted to Alphabet is just hilarious.

Interesting two weeks. RIP pushshift. Your torrents live on. Congratulations, imgur – photobucket, tinypic, and imageshack would be proud.

Re: Updating our inactive account policies

#145
This is unbelievably generous, I'm happy.

I feel like people forget Hotmail et al. circa 2001 when 60 days passed and you lost everything. Sometimes you could keep your account and just the data was wiped out. This was ABSOLUTELY THE NORM on the internet. Google overturned it single-handedly.

In Texas my automatic payment for my storage garage where I have $10,000s of my designer clothing collection didn't go through because my bank removed overdraft payments and I missed the email. They made very little attempt to contact me, pathetically little in my opinion, and when I finally caught it barely 30 some days later they said my possessions were all days away from going to auction. It really disgusted me. My whole life is stored there since going nomadic.

They don't have a prepay option otherwise I'd gladly pay annually or biannually to play it safe. Based on the US culture, I believe it is their actual goal to take possession of all my things. My only copy of school yearbooks and college degrees are also there. I really doubt any other country is as hostile and would love to move it all to my storage in Thai or France if not for customs and import taxes complications.

I didn't use my Hong Kong subway card for 9 years and the balance was still there, in America at almost 0 cost to them to keep it active, the NY subway system 100% would have stolen my money. I fundamentally HATE whan the culture tolerates as normal. Google ain't bad at all.

Re: Updating our inactive account policies

#146
post #79

I'm seeing a lot of criticism here in the comments, but what's the alternative for free accounts? If you're not using it, how long is Google (a for-profit company) supposed to hold onto your data for free? 100 years? 50 years? 15 years? 2 years seems pretty reasonable to me for something provided by a for-profit corporation. And as other reporting has noted, they're not deleting YouTube videos (makes sense, since whi…

Photobucket (remember them!) kept hundreds and hundreds of photos in my account with them despite complete inactivity for over a decade. I simply forgot the account existed, and remembered one day to find a ton of amazing decade old photos. There’s something to be said for doing things that earn your company respect from consumers. Had photobucket deleted my decade old photos because I didn’t log in frequently enough…

> Photobucket (remember them!) kept hundreds and hundreds of photos in my account

Photobucket doesn't even offer free service anymore. Isn't this proving the opposite of your point? They couldn't afford to do what you're asking, so they stopped.

Re: Updating our inactive account policies

#147
post #82

I seem to have lost my old YouTube account. I used a username (not email) to login, and then I used that same email for a different account, and now YouTube doesn't let you log in with usernames anymore, so it's in limbo. Now it looks like they'll delete all my videos and there's nothing I can do about it.

You can still use a username to login at https://www.youtube.com/gaia_link which will let you link the channel to a Google account if you still have the password.

Re: Updating our inactive account policies

#148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's very easy to be arrested, denied bond, be convicted, and serve your time, without ever leaving the jail/prison system. Especially if you're poor.

This. I am a British citizen living in the USA so I waited nine and half years in custody to go to trial.

That’s horrific, and the actual sentence was 6 months+ time served or you ended up winning at trial? Is it bec only US citizens are protected by the constitution’s promise of a speedy trial?

Re: Updating our inactive account policies

#149

I have a google account I haven't been able to log into for some time, because even though I know the password, it flagged "suspicious activity" at some point and has required me to verify with a phone number I no longer have, from when I lived in the U.S. (I now live in Canada, but it did let me log in from Canada when I first moved here) I was hoping that some day, someone would register that phone number and I'd b…

If the number isn’t in service why not try signing up with some pbx and getting that number shouldn’t cost more than $30. If you truly believe you have some btc locked away there that’s a small price to pay to get it back.

Re: Updating our inactive account policies

#150

This is unbelievably generous, I'm happy. I feel like people forget Hotmail et al. circa 2001 when 60 days passed and you lost everything. Sometimes you could keep your account and just the data was wiped out. This was ABSOLUTELY THE NORM on the internet. Google overturned it single-handedly. In Texas my automatic payment for my storage garage where I have $10,000s of my designer clothing collection didn't go through…

> in America at almost 0 cost to them to keep it active, the NY subway system 100% would have stolen my money.

MetroCards expire every 12 months, but every MVM in the city (and every subway station has 2-50 of them) will take an expired one and exchange it for an active one for free. My understanding of the expiry window is that it's meant to correspond roughly to how long a MetroCard survives in a wallet, not to steal your money.

(None of this will matter in a few years anyways, the replacement system integrates with existing contactless payment systems.)

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