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Experiments in Making Cocktail Ice

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Re: Experiments in Making Cocktail Ice

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I've been making clear ice at home for a while--it's a great party trick and much easier to do than it seems. The best part is chiseling ice cubes from a large clear block of ice: use a serrated knife and a hammer and you will end up with perfectly square blocks of ice.

Interesting trick!

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When I was working on an ice climbing robot we spent a lot of effort trying to get large blocks of clear ice to test on. The thought was that we wanted repeatable experiments. But then we realized that perfectly dense water ice is so hard and tough that our robot would not be able to get an ice screw into it. So we ended up trying to make something more similar to glacial ice. To do that we bought a nugget ice machin…

That’s incredibly cool, thanks for sharing it!

Re: Experiments in Making Cocktail Ice

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the idea is leaving it open so it freezes from the top down. From what I've read there, the trick of clear ice is directional freezing. I've seen some other ideas like freezing water in a camping cooler with its top open.

That's what I thought the idea was, too. But then, why aren't my ice-cubes made in the regular fridge tray clear? The same principle should apply: they should be clear at the top, where the tray is open.

Ice in a tray freezes from all sides since it's not insulated. And indeed, the ice from your tray is crystal clear on the sides, with the cloudy ice at the center of the cube.

In an insulated vessel, the sides and bottom remain liquid until the frozen portion grows down from the top, pushing the cloudy bit to the bottom, which you can then just lop off.

Re: Experiments in Making Cocktail Ice

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> Hello! If you're heard of directional freezing, learned to make clear ice in a cooler or in a thermos, or purchased clear ice cube trays, that information all came from me, Camper English, writing here on Alcademics.

> My big discovery of what became known as directional freezing was in 2009, and now it's used all over the world in smaller cocktail bars, in homes, and in the form of many commercial ice cube trays (none of which are owned by me, sadly).

Interesting…

Re: Experiments in Making Cocktail Ice

#55

Former bartender here. Having nice cocktail ice chunks at home isn't as complex as this might make it seem. No need for a clunky box in your freezer or costly gizmos. I keep a travel-sized coffee thermos in my freezer with about 2-3 inches of water at the bottom. Takes 18-24 hours to create one chunk. If you time it right, 90% of the water freezes, and the water impurities pool at the bottom – pop out the frozen chun…

An even lower equipment option I've had some success with: Just use any food container, such as an ice-cream box or tupperware. Part fill it and put in the freezer with no lid. It will start freezing from the outside in. When it is partly frozen but before it goes cloudy, break a hole in the top of the ice to allow the trapped liquid inside to escape, and put it back in for a few more hours until it is nearly all frozen. This way you can get a big mostly clear block with a cloudy bit in the middle (you can repeat the break and freeze to get it even smaller), which you can cut up and melt off any cloudy bits with warm water.

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I’ve purchased this one[1] and it makes almost perfect cubes of ice that are very clear and melt evenly and slowly. In my cocktail glass it is so flat that the whiskey does not permeate the bottom. The result is a beautifully clear square in the center of my glass when looking at it from above. Trick is to let the ice temper for a few minutes to acclimate to the room temperature before pouring your drink over it. Oth…

The margins on that must be incredible. An ice cube tray plus some foam packing material, for $40. Didn't even bother to encase the foam in a blow-molded shell like a cooler.

Re: Experiments in Making Cocktail Ice

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I've gotten excellent results using an aquarium pump in a cooler. Essentially making a tiny Clinebell ice maker in your freezer. If you position it right and use the right amount of power, you get zero cloudiness at any point in the block. Best sample I was able to make (the second slide is more impressive, not sure why I didn't post that first): https://www.instagram.com/p/BfRgI71B1h7/?hl=en

Major hassle though. And is the aquarium pump food safe? Probably better to go with the directional freezing method.

Regardless, I'm pretty sure Camper English mentions this somewhere in his archives - he's tried every single method as far as I can tell. He is the godfather of clear ice.

Re: Experiments in Making Cocktail Ice

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Anyone being successful with some diy Peltier or compressor solution to make big blocks? I need big blocks, more than my freezer can cope, but not enough to justify couple of thousand EUR worth of machine.

Can you justify a few hundred for a big chest freezer and a cooler? Then you can use the cooler method described in this link or in one of the other comments from ir77 on this thread. But just put the cooler inside the big chest freezer. https://www.alcademics.com/2010/08/a-homemade-giant-crystal-...

It is also terribly slow. I was thinking about something like a cold plate on top of which there is pot of water with insulated sides that freezes from the bottom up - and something to move the water around. so you get constant remelt of the top layer so no impurities.

A second hand ice cream maker could provide the cooling power.

Re: Experiments in Making Cocktail Ice

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I always thought the key to getting clear ice was to boil the water first so the oxygen goes out of solution.

That isn’t the issue. The problem is an ice shell initially forms, then the water inside the shell needs to expand as it freezes but it has no where to expand. This creates internal stress and micro fractures and the resulting ice crackles due to internal stress. Clear ice requires a directional freeze.

Hm. This internal stress issue you describe might be a thing, but I'm pretty sure bubbles exsolving during freezing is also a thing. Most of the times I tried and failed to make clear ice there were obvious bubble exsolution trails.
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