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Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

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Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

#91
post #54

Should we even be discussing this? There’s no proof that this actually happened. Reddit posts are very often made up for karma.

The Reddit OP posted the prof's name, they really are an agricultural sciences professor at Texas A&M. If this is made up then it's one hell of a way to defame someone.

Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

#92
post #16

Incredibly low IQ professor who doesn't know how to grade and how to use chat gpt. All students must organize and report this behavior, he is using unauthorized and unproven tool to grade assignments

Rather disturbing that such people are able to become professors in the first place. Even if he's not technically inclined he should be smart enough not to assign grades based on the output of some untested tool

Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

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post #28

The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. With the rise of the Internet, it became easier to source it from more places - with a counter balancing rise of plagiarism detectors. Now with Google, Grammarly and ChatGPT, it is trivial to copy/paste a pipeline with enough entropy to defeat many if not most detectors. I suspect the next generation of tools will be finish this cycle - we w…

Seriously, though. Q to ChatGPT: ‘Was this text generated by ChatGPT? "The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. With the rise of the Internet, it became easier to source it from more places - with a counter balancing rise of plagiarism detectors. Now with Google, Grammarly and ChatGPT, it is trivial to copy/paste a pipeline with enough entropy to defeat many if not most detectors.…

I gave bard your text, asked it to make it appear as though a AI didn't write it, and then gave it back to chatgpt... Neither one can definitely identify if it's written by AI anymore

Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

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To the teachers I know, I’ve been recommending that if they are paranoid about GPT, they can ask the students to cite material from a physical textbook in their assignments. Even if the students type the textbook into ChatGPT at least they read the material. This is beside the point of whether current education needs to be improved, and whether GPT is going to force some change here - but this is a useful stopgap. te…

ChatGPT can cite physical textbooks though

It can also give me quotes from Martians, but that doesn't mean Martians or what they or the average Venusian had to say on a topic true.

Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

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post #28

The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. With the rise of the Internet, it became easier to source it from more places - with a counter balancing rise of plagiarism detectors. Now with Google, Grammarly and ChatGPT, it is trivial to copy/paste a pipeline with enough entropy to defeat many if not most detectors. I suspect the next generation of tools will be finish this cycle - we w…

In the first exam I wrote, while doing a Postdoc at a university, I made a question with a really neat algorithm I'd thought of. I spent a lot of time making it super clean, ramping up to the algorithm using hints, etc.

I was very happy when I read the first exam reply and the student had correctly solved the entire question! But then the second student had the same solution, and the third, and the fourth... Turns out somebody had written the exact same algorithm on stackoverflow, and I hadn't noticed. The students were allowed to use the internet, but they were also required to say what material they had used. Only one student actually listed the stackoverflow answer.

My first instinct was to report all the students for cheating. But then, there were so many of them that I couldn't be bothered. I just changed the weighting of the question to 0.

Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

#96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm noticing an extremely strong trend of this. It's surprisingly common to see people on twitter use a ChatGPT screenshot as a "source" for statistics or facts that aren't correct.

I've seen the same exact thing in HN comments where someone copied stats directly from chatgpt and then cited chatgpt

Some of these, and most of the twitter screen caps, were probably intended to be frivolous irony but were predictably taken seriously by a non-trivial percent of the audience.

Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

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To the teachers I know, I’ve been recommending that if they are paranoid about GPT, they can ask the students to cite material from a physical textbook in their assignments. Even if the students type the textbook into ChatGPT at least they read the material. This is beside the point of whether current education needs to be improved, and whether GPT is going to force some change here - but this is a useful stopgap. te…

As someone who was a student over a decade ago, I'd lose my fucking mind if I had to use physical books. There was simply not enough time to go get books off the shelf and complete all my assignments. Everything was done digitally, I can't think of a single exception in college. I once turned in a math exam written using LaTeX and the professor initially declined to grade it. I did concede that I hadn't followed the…

Availability is also an issue. I wouldn't be too satisfied with having to drive 2 hours to a library in a different city because the two copies of a specific textbook had already been borrowed from the closest one. And before you ask, no, not all colleges have decent on-campus libraries. Some lend (the single and only copies of) books to professors for them to keep for ages.

Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

#99

At this point you can replace professor and university with ChatGPT. For well documented topics (like math, languages..) it gives pretty good explanations. I use it to study new programming language and AI!

We already know it can't actually do math and it'll bald-faced lie to you about facts, so I don't think that's actually a great idea.

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Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously, though. Q to ChatGPT: ‘Was this text generated by ChatGPT? "The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. With the rise of the Internet, it became easier to source it from more places - with a counter balancing rise of plagiarism detectors. Now with Google, Grammarly and ChatGPT, it is trivial to copy/paste a pipeline with enough entropy to defeat many if not most detectors.…

I just had ChatGPT write me a poem, and then in a new session, pasted the poem back in and asked it if it wrote it. The response? "No, I did not write that poem. I am an AI language model, and I generate responses based on patterns and information in the data I have been trained on. I don't have the capability to write original poems or claim authorship of any specific text."

The thing about LLMs that a lot of people haven't cottoned onto yet is that they're essentially constantly lying. They have no concept of truth and also no concept of certainty. This makes them much less useful for a lot of tasks then people realize.
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