ChatGPT lies all the time and I wouldn't consider it a reliable indicator to simply ask it whether it has written a particular piece of text.
Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
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Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone who was a student over a decade ago, I'd lose my fucking mind if I had to use physical books. There was simply not enough time to go get books off the shelf and complete all my assignments. Everything was done digitally, I can't think of a single exception in college. I once turned in a math exam written using LaTeX and the professor initially declined to grade it. I did concede that I hadn't followed the…
I was a student more like 20 years ago. I had a lot of physical books as well. There's different use cases. If you are searching for a specific piece of information - digital all the way. If you are trying to digest material in a linear fashion, I find a physical book works better for me. Less distractions.
I agree on the less distractions part. But it's just a time thing. I can search 7 different books in the time it would take me to get one off a shelf and search it.
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#83The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. With the rise of the Internet, it became easier to source it from more places - with a counter balancing rise of plagiarism detectors. Now with Google, Grammarly and ChatGPT, it is trivial to copy/paste a pipeline with enough entropy to defeat many if not most detectors. I suspect the next generation of tools will be finish this cycle - we w…
> The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. Right, and you have also always gotten a big fat F when you cheat.
An `F` assumes it was actually issued a grade. Cheating usually results in disqualification and a lack of grade issued.
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#84The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. With the rise of the Internet, it became easier to source it from more places - with a counter balancing rise of plagiarism detectors. Now with Google, Grammarly and ChatGPT, it is trivial to copy/paste a pipeline with enough entropy to defeat many if not most detectors. I suspect the next generation of tools will be finish this cycle - we w…
> The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. Right, and you have also always gotten a big fat F when you cheat.
I used to pay a classmate to write my papers. He'd just write two different ones.
I even had a classmate take a physics midterm for me, after taking his own earlier in the day. The fact that professors don't check the identity of the person handing a paper in vs the name on the test is insanity. But thanks for the good grade I guess.
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#85The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. With the rise of the Internet, it became easier to source it from more places - with a counter balancing rise of plagiarism detectors. Now with Google, Grammarly and ChatGPT, it is trivial to copy/paste a pipeline with enough entropy to defeat many if not most detectors. I suspect the next generation of tools will be finish this cycle - we w…
Seriously, though. Q to ChatGPT: ‘Was this text generated by ChatGPT? "The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. With the rise of the Internet, it became easier to source it from more places - with a counter balancing rise of plagiarism detectors. Now with Google, Grammarly and ChatGPT, it is trivial to copy/paste a pipeline with enough entropy to defeat many if not most detectors.…
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Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
I just had ChatGPT write me a poem, and then in a new session, pasted the poem back in and asked it if it wrote it. The response? "No, I did not write that poem. I am an AI language model, and I generate responses based on patterns and information in the data I have been trained on. I don't have the capability to write original poems or claim authorship of any specific text."
This is the key thing with the limitations of LLMs at present, it can't "remember" what it has or hasn't done, by design.
It’s not saying it can’t remember. It’s saying it doesn’t have the ability to do what it did.
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#87The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. With the rise of the Internet, it became easier to source it from more places - with a counter balancing rise of plagiarism detectors. Now with Google, Grammarly and ChatGPT, it is trivial to copy/paste a pipeline with enough entropy to defeat many if not most detectors. I suspect the next generation of tools will be finish this cycle - we w…
Seriously, though. Q to ChatGPT: ‘Was this text generated by ChatGPT? "The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. With the rise of the Internet, it became easier to source it from more places - with a counter balancing rise of plagiarism detectors. Now with Google, Grammarly and ChatGPT, it is trivial to copy/paste a pipeline with enough entropy to defeat many if not most detectors.…
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Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#88I'm sure the professor is falling back on some sort of honor code chicanery where you are required to report cheating of fellow classmates if you are aware of cheating.
That's a good point, there was also the professor who casually joined his class's private chat (given the surprise opportunity) and then got screenshots of the group's cheating process. I think he also got screenshots of the group suspecting that some other student was telling on them. Edit, found the original: https://web.archive.org/web/20220601073048/https://crumplab....
That seems like a bad representation of what happened. A teacher was invited to join a group chat at the beginning of the term. And then students started to use the chat to cheat, not realizing the teacher was part of the group. It's pretty clear the students were at fault, while also being really sloppy at cheating.
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#89BY ASKING CHATGTP IF IT'S CHATGTP GENERATED -_- wtf. even the dedicated detectors don't work well.
yeah, a teacher failing a whole class is odd, but failing a whole class based on the fact that ChatGPT said it wrote it is just insane.
Because of the hype people believe it's intelligent and as a machine can't lie.
Too bad it's an text generator and just produces the most likely answer.
"When someone asks you if you are a god, you say YES"
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#90I can't read the OP, but, it seems quite impressive if the matriculation rules already have "must not use AI assistance" in them. Would be interested in the particular wording too - if you used ChatGPT search tool does that disqualify you? What about if your spreadsheet app used AI to choose the best graph type? You used ChatPDF? Are they saying it is plagiarism, would students know that it was considered that way (y…
All of my CS classes already have rules against AI (though they had a head start from copilot). A couple other non-STEM courses as well.
This would have been quite the quagmire for my education, as I was required to create AI for at least one class.