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This doesn’t sound like he’s failing the entire class. >If you are happy with your grade, simply do not turn in the next assignment
The next assignment will be run through ChatGPT as well, with presumably the same results - resulting in failure and escalation to the academic dishonesty office.
Instead of failing them on this assignment, why not make them do an oral presentation and grade this assignment on that, if there is doubt?\ Failing them completely seems a bit heavy-handed and unfair. Surely some did leverage ChatGPT, but likely not all did so.
I helped my nephew in High School, not college for a few months last year and I was so sick and tired of constantly getting so many of these assignments every single god damn week. I just couldn't understand the point of it, you were given so little time since it seemed like every week several classes wanted one of these on top of the regular homework and sometimes there would be two of them on the same week from the same class so of course the quality would be low and I just do not see the point of this type of assignment if its not given the proper amount of time it requires.
I hated everything about it and when chatgpt came along I saw it as a blessing hoping that now that there was something that could do this the teachers would stop relying on them so much.
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Were expectations set ahead of time? (don't cheat?) If so, he's actually the best kind of teacher: allowing them to experience the real world but with soft consequences.
The real world where someone in power claims everyone they are responsible for educating is cheating in the 11th hour, provides no evidence and refuses to pass them even though they paid thousands of dollars?
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Been saying this for a while. There are very simple and effective ways to teach your class that can't be cheated with AI. These professors are simply lazy and uncreative.
Speaking as an (assistant) professor in theoretical CS, I see there are many bad approaches in the original post and mentioned in this discussion, but I strongly disagree with: > There are very simple and effective ways to teach your class that can't be cheated with AI. These professors are simply lazy and uncreative. I can attest to the following problems to good homework creation, from my own experiences playing wi…
May not work for you, but as a CS student our department had the policy if that if you failed the final, you failed the course. The finals were usually structured that rote memorization would earn a C- (depending on course complexity and importance). They were all pencil-and-paper exams.
While cheating was policed, collab was encouraged with the proviso that lab submissions needed to be own-work, and they'd run basic comparisons to make sure that they weren't copies. As a result, the administrivia on finals was longer...but there was a little less concern about the rates of cheating.
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Seriously, though. Q to ChatGPT: ‘Was this text generated by ChatGPT? "The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. With the rise of the Internet, it became easier to source it from more places - with a counter balancing rise of plagiarism detectors. Now with Google, Grammarly and ChatGPT, it is trivial to copy/paste a pipeline with enough entropy to defeat many if not most detectors.…
I just had ChatGPT write me a poem, and then in a new session, pasted the poem back in and asked it if it wrote it. The response? "No, I did not write that poem. I am an AI language model, and I generate responses based on patterns and information in the data I have been trained on. I don't have the capability to write original poems or claim authorship of any specific text."
BY ASKING CHATGTP IF IT'S CHATGTP GENERATED -_- wtf. even the dedicated detectors don't work well.
So some people think it is intelligent and could reason
This is dumb as fuck. The said "teacher" should know that ChatGPT will give lots of false positives.
Lots of hallucinations. ChatGPT will hallucinate that it wrote pieces of text. Even GPTZero will detect the constitution as AI generated
I also feel like any prof claiming cheating based solely on an AI or AI detection model needs to be hauled in front of an academic review board on the same criteria they are judging their students. There is no excuse for this level of uncritical thinking at the University level.
To the teachers I know, I’ve been recommending that if they are paranoid about GPT, they can ask the students to cite material from a physical textbook in their assignments. Even if the students type the textbook into ChatGPT at least they read the material. This is beside the point of whether current education needs to be improved, and whether GPT is going to force some change here - but this is a useful stopgap. te…
ChatGPT can cite physical textbooks though