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Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what you get by hyping ChatGPT without making clear what it does, can do, and can not do.

This is what you get if you can't make teachers embrace technology. Make it mandatory to use chatGPT for writing aid, do live tests to prove true knowledge.

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Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

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To the teachers I know, I’ve been recommending that if they are paranoid about GPT, they can ask the students to cite material from a physical textbook in their assignments. Even if the students type the textbook into ChatGPT at least they read the material. This is beside the point of whether current education needs to be improved, and whether GPT is going to force some change here - but this is a useful stopgap. te…

As someone who was a student over a decade ago, I'd lose my fucking mind if I had to use physical books. There was simply not enough time to go get books off the shelf and complete all my assignments. Everything was done digitally, I can't think of a single exception in college. I once turned in a math exam written using LaTeX and the professor initially declined to grade it. I did concede that I hadn't followed the…

I was a student more like 20 years ago. I had a lot of physical books as well. There's different use cases.

If you are searching for a specific piece of information - digital all the way.

If you are trying to digest material in a linear fashion, I find a physical book works better for me. Less distractions.

Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

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This doesn’t sound like he’s failing the entire class. >If you are happy with your grade, simply do not turn in the next assignment

> This doesn’t sound like he’s failing the entire class. In the email he also says "I am giving everyone in the class an X." > X (grade not submitted): If you do not assign a grade, an “X” defined as “grade not submitted” is automatically assigned. No student can graduate with an “X” on his/her academic record. I think the term "fails" is wrong in the title, but he is essentially blocking them from graduating at this…

I was reading that X as a variable, not a particular grade. As in, your grade is X, where X can be A, B, C, D, or F.

Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

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The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. With the rise of the Internet, it became easier to source it from more places - with a counter balancing rise of plagiarism detectors. Now with Google, Grammarly and ChatGPT, it is trivial to copy/paste a pipeline with enough entropy to defeat many if not most detectors. I suspect the next generation of tools will be finish this cycle - we w…

Seriously, though. Q to ChatGPT: ‘Was this text generated by ChatGPT? "The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. With the rise of the Internet, it became easier to source it from more places - with a counter balancing rise of plagiarism detectors. Now with Google, Grammarly and ChatGPT, it is trivial to copy/paste a pipeline with enough entropy to defeat many if not most detectors.…

I just had ChatGPT write me a poem, and then in a new session, pasted the poem back in and asked it if it wrote it. The response?

"No, I did not write that poem. I am an AI language model, and I generate responses based on patterns and information in the data I have been trained on. I don't have the capability to write original poems or claim authorship of any specific text."

Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

#66
Professors might consider including ChatGPT in the assignment:

Get ChatGPT to generate the pest output possible using your prompting skills (show the prompt work and progression), then critique it, find and distinguish the accurate parts and hallucinations (citing actual hardcopy book references).

Students would have to both show knowledge of the topic and show knowledge of skilled use of LLMs (which should be a useful skill going forward). Bonus is that this actually harder than an ordinary test.

Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

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To the teachers I know, I’ve been recommending that if they are paranoid about GPT, they can ask the students to cite material from a physical textbook in their assignments. Even if the students type the textbook into ChatGPT at least they read the material. This is beside the point of whether current education needs to be improved, and whether GPT is going to force some change here - but this is a useful stopgap. te…

ChatGPT can cite physical textbooks though

Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

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post #28

The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. With the rise of the Internet, it became easier to source it from more places - with a counter balancing rise of plagiarism detectors. Now with Google, Grammarly and ChatGPT, it is trivial to copy/paste a pipeline with enough entropy to defeat many if not most detectors. I suspect the next generation of tools will be finish this cycle - we w…

> The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. Right, and you have also always gotten a big fat F when you cheat.

When you got caught, which isn't the same thing.

Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who was a student over a decade ago, I'd lose my fucking mind if I had to use physical books. There was simply not enough time to go get books off the shelf and complete all my assignments. Everything was done digitally, I can't think of a single exception in college. I once turned in a math exam written using LaTeX and the professor initially declined to grade it. I did concede that I hadn't followed the…

I was a student more like 20 years ago. I had a lot of physical books as well. There's different use cases. If you are searching for a specific piece of information - digital all the way. If you are trying to digest material in a linear fashion, I find a physical book works better for me. Less distractions.

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