Wow, even if the professor assigned using ChatGPT they would not get 100% adoption. Classes have really heterogeneous behavior.
Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
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Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#22Instead of failing them on this assignment, why not make them do an oral presentation and grade this assignment on that, if there is doubt?\ Failing them completely seems a bit heavy-handed and unfair. Surely some did leverage ChatGPT, but likely not all did so.
Because this is a bad teacher not interested in doing their job.
Were expectations set ahead of time? (don't cheat?) If so, he's actually the best kind of teacher: allowing them to experience the real world but with soft consequences.
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#23I've talked with current college students at a number of U.S. colleges and asked them about what professors are saying about ChatGPT. They don't seem to understand the implications beyond students can potentially use it to cheat.
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#24BY ASKING CHATGTP IF IT'S CHATGTP GENERATED -_- wtf. even the dedicated detectors don't work well.
This is what you get by hyping ChatGPT without making clear what it does, can do, and can not do.
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#25I can't read the OP, but, it seems quite impressive if the matriculation rules already have "must not use AI assistance" in them. Would be interested in the particular wording too - if you used ChatGPT search tool does that disqualify you? What about if your spreadsheet app used AI to choose the best graph type? You used ChatPDF?
Are they saying it is plagiarism, would students know that it was considered that way (you've not copied, and ChatGPT isn't a source as such).
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#26This is dumb as fuck. The said "teacher" should know that ChatGPT will give lots of false positives.
Lots of hallucinations. ChatGPT will hallucinate that it wrote pieces of text. Even GPTZero will detect the constitution as AI generated
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#27At this point you can replace professor and university with ChatGPT. For well documented topics (like math, languages..) it gives pretty good explanations. I use it to study new programming language and AI!
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#28The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. With the rise of the Internet, it became easier to source it from more places - with a counter balancing rise of plagiarism detectors. Now with Google, Grammarly and ChatGPT, it is trivial to copy/paste a pipeline with enough entropy to defeat many if not most detectors. I suspect the next generation of tools will be finish this cycle - we won't be able to build an arbitrary text distinguisher that works with acceptable accuracy.
Educators have to adapt. If you want to "know what someone knows" - then ask them face to face, or have them write it down on paper. We used to call these tests, and they work pretty well.
If you want someone to produce a piece of writing about something, how they produced it is less important than the result. If it is correct, clear, and gets the job done, then good. It's be the same for programming assignments - Copilot and ChatGPT make all un-proctored creation assignments a black box. You can evaluate the output, but it is nearly impossible to know what's in the box.
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#29I can't read the OP, but, it seems quite impressive if the matriculation rules already have "must not use AI assistance" in them. Would be interested in the particular wording too - if you used ChatGPT search tool does that disqualify you? What about if your spreadsheet app used AI to choose the best graph type? You used ChatPDF? Are they saying it is plagiarism, would students know that it was considered that way (y…
Why can't you read the OP?
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#30The amount of non-technical people who have very little intuition around the limitations of LLMs is actually fairly startling - and I like to think of myself of someone who is usually good at that kind of thing. The realistic/coherence of the output is just so convincing, people cannot seem to stop themselves from attributing a theory of mind to it. Just earlier this week I saw someone saying that they were creating a ton of OpenAI accounts to try to advocate to ChatGPT for their activist cause.