FYI, the reddit thread has someone claiming to do what I was thinking of doing -- submitting the professor's email to chatgpt to ask if the text itself is chatgpt's:
Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
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Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#12I'm sure the professor is falling back on some sort of honor code chicanery where you are required to report cheating of fellow classmates if you are aware of cheating.
That's a good point, there was also the professor who casually joined his class's private chat (given the surprise opportunity) and then got screenshots of the group's cheating process.
I think he also got screenshots of the group suspecting that some other student was telling on them.
Edit, found the original: https://web.archive.org/web/20220601073048/https://crumplab....
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#13Instead of failing them on this assignment, why not make them do an oral presentation and grade this assignment on that, if there is doubt?\ Failing them completely seems a bit heavy-handed and unfair. Surely some did leverage ChatGPT, but likely not all did so.
This might not be feasible depending on the size of the class. I had classes with 100-200 students.
Most problems with education are simply due to scale. The most notable one being Bloom's finding that private tutoring produced 2 standard deviations better results than classroom education.
We can kind of approximate that now with GPT :) One tutor per child!
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#14This doesn’t sound like he’s failing the entire class. >If you are happy with your grade, simply do not turn in the next assignment
The threads show that ChatGPT claims to have written anything if you ask it to. So it really doesn't matter what the student submits, ChatGPT will claim it?
Indeed there’s one screenshot showing ChatGPT claim it wrote the professor’s email. How embarrassing.
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#15Instead of failing them on this assignment, why not make them do an oral presentation and grade this assignment on that, if there is doubt?\ Failing them completely seems a bit heavy-handed and unfair. Surely some did leverage ChatGPT, but likely not all did so.
Been saying this for a while. There are very simple and effective ways to teach your class that can't be cheated with AI. These professors are simply lazy and uncreative.
Then why don't you list them instead of keeping them secret?
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#16Incredibly low IQ professor who doesn't know how to grade and how to use chat gpt.
All students must organize and report this behavior, he is using unauthorized and unproven tool to grade assignments
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#17BY ASKING CHATGTP IF IT'S CHATGTP GENERATED -_- wtf. even the dedicated detectors don't work well.
yeah, a teacher failing a whole class is odd, but failing a whole class based on the fact that ChatGPT said it wrote it is just insane.
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#18This doesn’t sound like he’s failing the entire class. >If you are happy with your grade, simply do not turn in the next assignment
> This doesn’t sound like he’s failing the entire class.
In the email he also says "I am giving everyone in the class an X."
> X (grade not submitted): If you do not assign a grade, an “X” defined as “grade not submitted” is automatically assigned. No student can graduate with an “X” on his/her academic record.
I think the term "fails" is wrong in the title, but he is essentially blocking them from graduating at this time.
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#19This is pretty much an episode of South Park from a few weeks ago where the teacher starts grading all the papers with ChatGPT then realizes the students were also using it to write their papers. Except in this case it’s not a cartoon and the teacher is incompetent
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#20To the teachers I know, I’ve been recommending that if they are paranoid about GPT, they can ask the students to cite material from a physical textbook in their assignments.
Even if the students type the textbook into ChatGPT at least they read the material.
This is beside the point of whether current education needs to be improved, and whether GPT is going to force some change here - but this is a useful stopgap.
teachers who take an approach like OP need to be stopped.