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Some companies would lose money. We can't allow that.
This is Hacker News, so you should probably include a "/s" to indicate sarcasm, because otherwise you'll get a lot of people agreeing with you.
This is to some degree reassuring; as the chemical was phased out in the 1970s, maybe it means Parkinson's rates among people who are middle aged or younger today, and thus much less likely to have been exposed, will be lower than boomer+ rates.
Alternatively, the idea that you can get actual Parkinson's (not PSP) from mitochondrial complex 1 inhibitors might be new and noteworthy on its own, because I'm not aware of other research showing this.
>"But in the 20th century, TCE was used for many purposes, including making decaffeinated coffee" ... This is exactly the reason I never touched decaf coffee until I found Swiss water process (SWP) decaf. It never made sense to me to use hydrocarbon solvents in a food application
>"But in the 20th century, TCE was used for many purposes, including making decaffeinated coffee" ... This is exactly the reason I never touched decaf coffee until I found Swiss water process (SWP) decaf. It never made sense to me to use hydrocarbon solvents in a food application
When you drink your coffee without caffeine in your 30 for escaping a harm from caffeine, but end up with Parkinson in your 60+.
When you drink your coffee without caffeine in your 30 for escaping a harm from caffeine, but end up with Parkinson in your 60+.
It's worth noting that almost all decaffeinated coffee is made using water as the solvent. Even 30 years ago this was true.
Widely used chemical *(that was generally phased out in the 70s) linked to Parkinson's. Still important, but you don't need to start searching product labels in 2023 for it.
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What is Tricholoroethylene? "A widely used chemical" ....
Imagine this headline A widely known basketball team wins NBA finals Clickbait?
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> everyone should be taking mitochondrial complex 1 inhibitors These processes have billions of years of evolution behind them and are highly conserved. People shouldn't mess with them until there are huge studies, and not in the context of cancer therapy. Just because something helps with cancer, like mitochondrial complex 1 inhibitors (or radiation) doesn't mean we should all do it. Remember all the talk about how…
> Remember all the talk about how we should all eat lots of anti-oxidants to prevent cancer? It turns out it's more complicated than that, and an anti-oxidant rich diet can actually increase cancer risk. Which is probably because Mitochondrial Complex 1 inhibitors work by producing radical oxides in the mitochondria. I definitely agree with you that it's inherently very risky to mess around with them, but I also don'…
Which seems reasonable?
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"The naturalistic fallacy should not be confused with the appeal to nature..." (3rd paragraph in your link)
The more relevant article for those who are curious. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature
What they actually mean is that something natural will tend to be better - and there's nuance about why that might be so (having benefitted from evolutionary pressure and adaptation, a thing empirically tested and shown working, more effortessly fitting to our biology, and so on). Of course we're talking of man-made stuff thus-far, not some futuristic utopia where we know how to make everything better.
So unless the claim is "all natural things are always better", it's doubtful how the "fallacy" accusation actually applies in real life arguments. Does it address the claim that "X is better _because_ it is natural"? Well, doesn't that being the case or not, depend on the quality of the specific non-natural alternatives to X?
If those aren't any good, then X is indeed better not by chance, but precisely because it's natural. That is, because it had millions of years to evolve, millenia to be used and tested by humans, and so on, and it had all sort of evolutionary pressures to improve it.