What’s up with the sol.int email addresses on the whiteboard? Seems to be related to IPN/DTN but I can’t find anything concrete on the naming scheme.
Yeah it looks like some planning and brainstorming for some kind of interplanetary and galactic DNS scheme. Pretty cool, though it needs another TLD than .int, which is already used for international entities.
Vint Cerf’s career advice for engineers
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It works with good bosses. You will know pretty quickly if they're good by how they act. I've told good bosses what they need to hear and it's gone down well. Mind, the good ones are not common; the bad do predominate.
It's highly culturally dependent too. I found that in Singapore nobody with authority tolerated it, whereas authority in the US and UK was more tolerant. Even more than culture and the nature of the boss, though, I think how many other people hear of the criticism. The optimal number is 0. Bosses who don't have anything to prove tend to be more receptive, too. Vint squarely falls in that category. I'm not sure he'd b…
That's interesting. I think I would actually do better in such a culture. I actually have no problem at all respecting "chain of command" if that's part of some body of rules that are clearly stated or at least culturally implied. What I tend to have a problem with is power structures that are based on a web of humans manipulating each other while claiming they're not.
If you folks could help me brainstorm ideas for companies, geographies, social spheres and such, where strong hierarchies and little politics and psychological-level human manipulation is part of the culture, I'd certainly appreciate it. Some place where no one will ever say to me again: "Feel free to voice your disagreement. You're safe." I'm serious, I think it would help me out.
I'm a pacifist and strong believer in civil rights though, so anything in the armed forces or intelligence community is out.
Re: Vint Cerf’s career advice for engineers
#73> if they know I’m about to do something stupid, they have to tell me Summarizing the rest of the comments: "No good deed goes unpunished." However, "tell" takes many forms. One point I like to make is that I'll dig in on a substantive technical point, but strive not to bikeshed technical questions. Package the feedback as a question: "I'm not seeing the motive for using a JSON database when we're really going to nee…
It takes courage and tact to disagree with someone in a productive way. Going in hat-in-hand, looking at your shoes, isn't going to get you far but nor is calling someone's idea stupid and berating them one-on-one or in front of others.
Packaging feedback as a question like you put it is a good tactic and one i use. I also like to open with an understanding of where the person is coming from. This shows you've actually thought about it and understand, and who knows, maybe you don't and so you open the opportunity to get better informed on the decision. Something like "I see where you're going, you chose X because of reasons Y and Z, do i have that right?". Then once confirmed, you go into "well have you thought about A, B, and C? It seems to me this is a better choice because of ". The "it seems to me" is important because you've opened the door to admitting you may be wrong as well. "it seems to me" is a lot more disarming than "well everyone knows the right decision is X".
There are certainly personalities that will say this is overly worded and emotional and it's better to just say "you're wrong, i'm right, do X". When it works great, most of the time it won't and it just breeds resentment or at the very best breeds fear.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's highly culturally dependent too. I found that in Singapore nobody with authority tolerated it, whereas authority in the US and UK was more tolerant. Even more than culture and the nature of the boss, though, I think how many other people hear of the criticism. The optimal number is 0. Bosses who don't have anything to prove tend to be more receptive, too. Vint squarely falls in that category. I'm not sure he'd b…
> It's highly culturally dependent too. I found that in Singapore nobody with authority tolerated it, whereas authority in the US and UK was more tolerant. That's interesting. I think I would actually do better in such a culture. I actually have no problem at all respecting "chain of command" if that's part of some body of rules that are clearly stated or at least culturally implied. What I tend to have a problem wit…
“Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.” - Mike Tyson
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also, sadly: "HR is your enemy. The role of HR is to protect the CEO and his team when they do something unspeakable and to smooth the way when firing people."
HR is not your friend, but to say they are your enemy is overly reductive. The job of HR is to protect the company, which often means ensuring things are done by the book, or that enough compensation is given that it is better to take the money than argue. They aren't your friend, but they aren't your bosses friend either, and if your boss is trying to do something that will get the company in trouble then you may fi…
To be clear, sometimes they are close friends with your boss. Sometimes they are also the corporate lawyer.
I've encountered this situation in the past.
Re: Vint Cerf’s career advice for engineers
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's highly culturally dependent too. I found that in Singapore nobody with authority tolerated it, whereas authority in the US and UK was more tolerant. Even more than culture and the nature of the boss, though, I think how many other people hear of the criticism. The optimal number is 0. Bosses who don't have anything to prove tend to be more receptive, too. Vint squarely falls in that category. I'm not sure he'd b…
> It's highly culturally dependent too. I found that in Singapore nobody with authority tolerated it, whereas authority in the US and UK was more tolerant. That's interesting. I think I would actually do better in such a culture. I actually have no problem at all respecting "chain of command" if that's part of some body of rules that are clearly stated or at least culturally implied. What I tend to have a problem wit…
You're asking for a geographical location or a company where humans dont act human. I dont think it exists.
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#77This career advice sounds more like what someone would say who asked themselves "Hmm... What sort of career advice would make me look good if I gave it?" It having anything to do with his actual experiences, beliefs, and opinions seems kind of optional.
It's bizarre to suggest Vint Cerf has anything to prove in such a manner at this point.
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I am not sure I see a "uniform political slant." People in the many fields that comprise liberal arts find many things to disagree with each other about, sometimes quite vehemently.
You're either not serious or you're so deep in the bubble you can't see the edges. Close to 100% of liberal arts teaching staff are Democrats [1] [2] [3]. It didn't use to be this way [4] [5]. [1] https://www.pacificresearch.org/why-are-teachers-mostly-libe... [2] https://www.thecollegefix.com/zero-republican-professors/ [3] https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/partisan-registration-and-... [4] https://nationalaffairs.c…
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> The degree introduces indoctrination. I have yet to hear a principled distinction between "education" and "indoctrination" that doesn't boil down to whether the speaker agrees with the content being taught.
Here's a definition of indoctrination: the country is split nearly 50-50 on political issues, but 99-100% of faculty is in only one of those two camps
Have loggers been “indoctrinated” into supporting Republicans? Or do they reasonably see them as more likely to support policies which are favorable to their continued employment?