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Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease

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Re: Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease

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Widely used chemical *(that was generally phased out in the 70s) linked to Parkinson's. Still important, but you don't need to start searching product labels in 2023 for it.

Some of the most populated zones of the Bay Area are built on top of superfund sites, which have high concentration of TCE underground.

https://www.epa.gov/superfund-redevelopment/superfund-sites-...

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> It inhibits complex 1, the leading enzyme in a chain of reactions that convert food to energy in cellular organelles called mitochondria. So they upside is that it probably significantly reduces your risk of both cancer and type 2 diabetes, which you're >100x more likely to die from than Parkinson's. There are even longevity bloggers, like Peter Attia, who advocate that everyone should be taking mitochondrial compl…

> everyone should be taking mitochondrial complex 1 inhibitors

These processes have billions of years of evolution behind them and are highly conserved.

People shouldn't mess with them until there are huge studies, and not in the context of cancer therapy. Just because something helps with cancer, like mitochondrial complex 1 inhibitors (or radiation) doesn't mean we should all do it.

Remember all the talk about how we should all eat lots of anti-oxidants to prevent cancer? It turns out it's more complicated than that, and an anti-oxidant rich diet can actually increase cancer risk.

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When you drink your coffee without caffeine in your 30 for escaping a harm from caffeine, but end up with Parkinson in your 60+.

Why would you drink coffee if not for the caffeine. It's not exactly the most delicious drink.

Have you not had coffee with fresh ground beans less than 4 weeks after roast? If not get to your nearest real coffee shop pronto!

Re: Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease

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When you drink your coffee without caffeine in your 30 for escaping a harm from caffeine, but end up with Parkinson in your 60+.

It's worth noting that almost all decaffeinated coffee is made using water as the solvent. Even 30 years ago this was true.

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That chemical is trichloroethylene. Even Science does clickbait now.

If memory serves me this is the chemical at the basis of the John Travolta movie A Civil Action, which is based on the true story covered in the excellent book of the same title.

Re: Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease

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"After adjusting for differences in age, sex, race, and ethnicity, the scientists found veterans from Camp Lejeune had a 70% higher rate of Parkinson’s disease than the Camp Pendleton group." Why didn't they adjust for socioeconomic status? Wealthier people tend to be able to afford better medical care, live in healthier environments, eat healthier foods, etc. These could all be confounding factors, and a study like…

Alot of socioeconomic factors are baked into the above co-morbidities but anyway, is there a reason to think that veterans of two different marine camps have significantly different socioeconomic profiles from eachother?

In this case (Lejeune vs Pendleton), there would likely not be a substantial socioeconomic difference between the collective backgrounds of Marines who did basic training at either one. But comparing either camp to OCS at Quantico would, in fact, show a pretty stark delineation between the socioeconomic backgrounds.

Re: Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease

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IANAC (I am not a chemist, and certainly not an organic chemist ) but I know that contamination by former dry cleaning sites (almost always near built up areas, in small parades of shops, often near schools, gardens, etc) is a very serious problem. In the past, such businesses frequently dumped waste into drains, soak-always, pits, or in fact anywhere other than paying to have it treated properly. Probably the only other thing I’m aware of that you might possibly encounter is the site of a former leather tannery, although these were not generally sited near houses due to the overpowering smell and obvious unsightlyness.

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What would happen that was bad if we banned this until we had more safety evidence?

Some companies would lose money. We can't allow that.

That’s why cyanide is allowed in adult fruit and smoothie drinks without safety thresholds while it was only recently banned via pressure for children’s products. Setting a maximum amount of cyanide cuts into profits so there’s a lobby against it.

Re: Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Tricholoroethylene strongly linked to Parkinson”

What is Tricholoroethylene? "A widely used chemical" ....

Imagine this headline

A widely known basketball team wins NBA finals

Clickbait?

Re: Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease

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That chemical is trichloroethylene. Even Science does clickbait now.

Not clickbait when they tell you right away and give you a detailed story of the context and evidence behind what they learned

Of course clickbait because you need to click to get the name.
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