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New York City passes law barring weight discrimination

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Re: New York City passes law barring weight discrimination

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Post by qgin »

grzm wrote: post #6
h4zel wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TBF, there are a LOT more tall people than overweight people. As a fellow tall person, I think accessibility is always great. It's just targeting as many people as possible. The law is about more than just accessibility, though. Fat people are absolutely discriminated against in society.

I agree that accessibility is a good thing! > [T]here are a LOT more tall people than overweight people. Just to put some numbers to the facts: https://www.nyc.gov/site/doh/health/health-topics/obesity.pa... > More than half of adult New Yorkers have overweight (34%) or obesity (22%). Even if you're using a definition of "tall" meaning "taller than average" (50%), a larger percentage of the people are overweight in N…

Wow, NYC has only half the rates for overweight status and obesity compared to the United States as a whole.

Re: New York City passes law barring weight discrimination

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Post by mjbeswick »

h4zel wrote: post #5
version_five wrote: post #2

> supporters cited difficulty navigating seating at restaurants and theatres, getting turned away by landlords, and butting up against weight limits on the city's bike sharing programme Sort of implies that they want special treatment for fat people as opposed to equality. Does this mean that seats all have to be designed for the biggest person possible? In this fantasy world, as someone well above average height, I'…

TBF, there are a LOT more tall people than overweight people. As a fellow tall person, I think accessibility is always great. It's just targeting as many people as possible. The law is about more than just accessibility, though. Fat people are absolutely discriminated against in society.

It depends on how you define tall. Logically there should be as many short people as tall people!

Fat people are discriminated against, but the question is how much should obesity be catered for, and what range in body size?

Alcoholics and drug addicts and are also discriminated against by society, so shouldn't these lifestyle choices also be protected by the law?

Re: New York City passes law barring weight discrimination

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Post by ChrisRR »

h4zel wrote: post #5
version_five wrote: post #2

> supporters cited difficulty navigating seating at restaurants and theatres, getting turned away by landlords, and butting up against weight limits on the city's bike sharing programme Sort of implies that they want special treatment for fat people as opposed to equality. Does this mean that seats all have to be designed for the biggest person possible? In this fantasy world, as someone well above average height, I'…

TBF, there are a LOT more tall people than overweight people. As a fellow tall person, I think accessibility is always great. It's just targeting as many people as possible. The law is about more than just accessibility, though. Fat people are absolutely discriminated against in society.

It depends how tall and how overweight you're talking. I suspect most places cater for one standard deviation of height and weight. Two, maybe? Three probably not.

There's no single threshold to say you're fat and you're thin. I'm sure cinemas could put big seats in for the overweight but at some point that 99.99% person is going to visit and be too big even for that.

Re: New York City passes law barring weight discrimination

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Post by iggldiggl »

ChrisRR wrote: post #13
h4zel wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TBF, there are a LOT more tall people than overweight people. As a fellow tall person, I think accessibility is always great. It's just targeting as many people as possible. The law is about more than just accessibility, though. Fat people are absolutely discriminated against in society.

It depends how tall and how overweight you're talking. I suspect most places cater for one standard deviation of height and weight. Two, maybe? Three probably not. There's no single threshold to say you're fat and you're thin. I'm sure cinemas could put big seats in for the overweight but at some point that 99.99% person is going to visit and be too big even for that.

For heights I've commonly seen the 5th-percentile female and the 95th-percentile man being used to define a height range covering most of the population.

Re: New York City passes law barring weight discrimination

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Post by version_five »

mjbeswick wrote: post #12
h4zel wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TBF, there are a LOT more tall people than overweight people. As a fellow tall person, I think accessibility is always great. It's just targeting as many people as possible. The law is about more than just accessibility, though. Fat people are absolutely discriminated against in society.

It depends on how you define tall. Logically there should be as many short people as tall people! Fat people are discriminated against, but the question is how much should obesity be catered for, and what range in body size? Alcoholics and drug addicts and are also discriminated against by society, so shouldn't these lifestyle choices also be protected by the law?

Nit pick because this is HN: what logic tells you there should be as many short and tall people? You're assuming the distribution is not skewed.

Re: New York City passes law barring weight discrimination

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Post by dang »

0zemp2c wrote: post #7

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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re: New York City passes law barring weight discrimination

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Post by 0zemp2c »

dang wrote: post #16
0zemp2c wrote: post #7

[flagged]

Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Its not trolling, in many Doctor's offices it is already accepted practice for patients to deny having their weight measured at all during a physical

We are within two years of a prominent lawsuit based on a patient being recommended weight management, if it hasn't happened already

Would you mind not elevating your personal beliefs to a community standard? Particularly when you may be factually wrong?

BTW there are already many complaints about "flagging" being used to remove content that is valid but merely surprising to people...its probably time to take away people's black markers

Re: New York City passes law barring weight discrimination

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Post by dang »

0zemp2c wrote: post #17
dang wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Its not trolling, in many Doctor's offices it is already accepted practice for patients to deny having their weight measured at all during a physical We are within two years of a prominent lawsuit based on a patient being recommended weight management, if it hasn't happened already Would you mind not elevating your personal beliefs to a community standard? Particularly when you may be factually wrong? BTW there are a…

I don't have any beliefs about the litigation of obesity diagnoses and was not reacting to yours.

Rather, I was replying to your pattern of breaking the site guidelines in many places. You've done it again, unfortunately, here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35964586. If you keep that up, we're going to have to ban you again. I'd rather not, so could you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and fix this?

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