‘Nearshoring’ Push Is Fueling Tech Job Demand in Latin America • Hacker News Board

Re: ‘Nearshoring’ Push Is Fueling Tech Job Demand in Latin America

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Post by brianbreslin » Sun, May 14, 2023, 3:01 AM UTC

NickC25 wrote: post #146

brianbreslin wrote: post #145

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Is wynwood tech slack group still around? There was a period a few years back when there were like 5 competing slack groups (MIA Tech, Miamitech, RefreshMiami, WynwoodTech, etc). Also Hey Joe! I used to be much more active in the local scene, but having a kid + covid shifted my focus to other things. But it is wild to see how much it has changed here in 5 years.

I mean, it kind of is (i recognize your name - aren't you one of the guys who started the group?). I joined it as well as Refresh and some others back when I moved here 7 years ago. Now it's just a small amount of people who occasionally post there. It's pretty much dead, though. The local scene here is, well, sort of dead. CIC is no more, The Lab isn't hosting (m)any community events, Wynwood is now overrun by touri…

I didn't start wynwood tech, but did start refreshmiami back in 2006. None of the chat groups that I know of had the density or momentum to thrive. Lots of activity moved to whatsapp and telegram groups during the wave of newcomers during covid. Refresh stopped doing in person events as well, so we only restarted that a few months ago after a 2+ year hiatus (events are super time consuming to do well, and hard to make sense financially).

CIC space is re-launching soon under new management as CIC moved on from this location. I do miss the early days of the LAB when they were the nexus of all the activity. Sadly I haven't set foot in the LAB in over 4 years.

Re: ‘Nearshoring’ Push Is Fueling Tech Job Demand in Latin America

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Post by NickC25 » Mon, May 15, 2023, 3:53 PM UTC

brianbreslin wrote: post #151

NickC25 wrote: post #146

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I mean, it kind of is (i recognize your name - aren't you one of the guys who started the group?). I joined it as well as Refresh and some others back when I moved here 7 years ago. Now it's just a small amount of people who occasionally post there. It's pretty much dead, though. The local scene here is, well, sort of dead. CIC is no more, The Lab isn't hosting (m)any community events, Wynwood is now overrun by touri…

I didn't start wynwood tech, but did start refreshmiami back in 2006. None of the chat groups that I know of had the density or momentum to thrive. Lots of activity moved to whatsapp and telegram groups during the wave of newcomers during covid. Refresh stopped doing in person events as well, so we only restarted that a few months ago after a 2+ year hiatus (events are super time consuming to do well, and hard to mak…

What's sad to me is that most of the newcomers don't really engage with people who have been here for a while.

Happy to hear Refresh has started doing events again.

I miss the intimate events that were under 100 people where you could actually talk to people who were doing something besides crypto. Really miss when LiveNinja's staff would make waffles every week and let locals do presentations about whatever technical or business topics they chose.

Sad to hear that CIC moved on from that space - that location was great for both businesses and events....loved their kitchen space and the game room next door (and the hidden listening room!).

I have only been here since 2016 but I loved the LAB when I first got here (maybe I'm biased because I'm a Wyncode alum and the classes were out of the LAB). So many events, cool companies, interesting people, etc... but that's all in the past now....Wynwood lost the little amount of soul it still had by the time I moved here.

Shit, there's very little community here these days it seems.

Re: ‘Nearshoring’ Push Is Fueling Tech Job Demand in Latin America

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Post by ye-olde-sysrq » Mon, May 15, 2023, 5:33 PM UTC

sershe wrote: post #150

ye-olde-sysrq wrote: post #68

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Yeah, TIL Mexico is so pro-Labor. It's disgusting to see "we have to pay 6 months severance to chuck out someone who spent half a decade of their lives with us!" said unironically, even on this board.

So, when you decide to leave a company where you have spent half a decade, do you provide 6 months free labor, or do you do the disgusting thing and just leave?

A worker leaving is not even remotely as impactful to a company as a worker being let go is to the worker and their family. It's absurd to even imply it's the case.

Re: ‘Nearshoring’ Push Is Fueling Tech Job Demand in Latin America

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Post by sershe » Tue, May 16, 2023, 11:14 PM UTC

ye-olde-sysrq wrote: post #153

sershe wrote: post #150

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So, when you decide to leave a company where you have spent half a decade, do you provide 6 months free labor, or do you do the disgusting thing and just leave?

A worker leaving is not even remotely as impactful to a company as a worker being let go is to the worker and their family. It's absurd to even imply it's the case.

Is it really due to proportions?

In that case say you leave a startup of 3 people. Not the same as company firing one guy, but roughly 1/3rd impact, so 2 months of free severance labor is on you, correct, to avoid being "disgusting"?

Or if you happen to be a particularly valuable, hard-to-replace specialist; or happen to have unique knowledge of some legacy systems that nobody else can maintain, your impact can be order-of-magnitude comparable to being fired (in fact, the impact of you being fired might be lower for you than the impact of you leaving is for the company because you might find the next job very easily) and you would owe /some/ free labor, right? Exact proportions TBD.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love a ton of severance if I was laid off. But I don't suffer for excusitis and don't contort morality into some ridiculous fairness arguments. I am just selfish and I like money, so hey, I wouldn't mind some.

Re: ‘Nearshoring’ Push Is Fueling Tech Job Demand in Latin America

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Post by zrozinskiy » Thu, May 18, 2023, 5:12 PM UTC

We have been working with Latin American and European developers for years now. We use a recruting/staff augmenation company Mirigos (http://mirigos.com) to help us with search and compliance. Has been a much better experience for us than finding local developers. We chose between Europe and LatAm based on the needs as personalities and cultural fit differes.