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Fairbuds XL review: noise-cancelling headphones you can fix

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Re: Fairbuds XL review: noise-cancelling headphones you can fix

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By "huge old school connectors" I assume you mean the 1/4 inch TRS connector? Which is still totally normal on non-cheap headphones?

More like 5 pin DIN connectors (MIDI) but different. If you take a lot at old electronics you will see things for the first time.

I've had a ton of old headphones and I've never seen something like a 5 pin DIN connector. The old IBM keyboards do use a 5 pin DIN though.

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It's a review in a general interest newspaper for the average headphone buyer. Almost no one who buys headphones knows what any of those things are.

You are on a site called Hacker News

A lot of people on HN care about repairability. That's probably why a Fairphone product review is more likely to be posted here. If you know of a more technical review of this, please post it.

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And they will be if they're sound in terms of construction and somebody is willing to spend a few dollars on a USB DAC. By your same logic, if you need to use dongles with a brand new MacBook, today , is the MacBook thus not useable?

I see the small number of ports and reliance on dongles as a big mark against the MacBook's sustainability, yes.

If ultimately you still need to plug something in, what makes it less sustainable exactly?

(I don't use a MacBook in 2023)

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One of the problems with headphones is that the cups tend to deteriorate over time - maybe sweat or the oil from the skin or something reacts with it and it starts to peel. After a few years, the cups are no longer available for that model and so you end up having to buy a new one.

That's absolutely been my issue with a number of headphones, so I'm definitely interested in these.

I originally thought this was about in-ear buds (because of the somewhat misleading name), for which they'd have been just a few months too late for me (I bought some Sony MX4s earlier this year), but full over-ear headphones? I might be interested in that.

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post #159

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More like 5 pin DIN connectors (MIDI) but different. If you take a lot at old electronics you will see things for the first time.

I've had a ton of old headphones and I've never seen something like a 5 pin DIN connector. The old IBM keyboards do use a 5 pin DIN though.

Old keyboards in general if I remember correctly, and mice.

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post #210

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I see the small number of ports and reliance on dongles as a big mark against the MacBook's sustainability, yes.

If ultimately you still need to plug something in, what makes it less sustainable exactly? (I don't use a MacBook in 2023)

If you can't use thing A with thing B unless you also have thing C, to my mind that obviously reduces the expected lifetime of being able to use the combination, especially when thing C is a third party part.

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I have to ask, as I have never bought active headphones, all my headphones are user servicable already. I've even had to repair the soldering joints on my M40x once. The cables are all removable. The pads are easily replacable. Are active headphones really that much harder to service? There's no space constraints to warrant glue, clips and ultrasonic welding instead of screws.

I have replaced the pads on my Bose QuietComfort 35s 3 times in the last 6 years of wearing them almost daily. It's pretty easy to do. Beyond that they've just worked, even though I've dropped them a bunch of times. Still have excellent battery life. One of the best products I've purchased in last decade.

> One of the best products I've purchased in last decade.

Agreed. I have gone through two dozen IEM and over ear headphones in two decades, and the BOSE QC35 II are the best I have ever used. Worth every penny.

Wanna know what's funny? Everybody loves to hate on BOSE, but they are consistently better than any other brand I've ever bought. Their sound quality might not be great, but they make up for it with comfort, practicality and sturdier than any other brand in that price range.

I use some Beyerdynamics DT880 on my desktop, they are somehow worse than the QC35. Tinny highs than need EQ, too shallow so my very delicate ears rest on the internal hard mesh and they hurt after a few hours. They do not spark joy.

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post #210

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I see the small number of ports and reliance on dongles as a big mark against the MacBook's sustainability, yes.

If ultimately you still need to plug something in, what makes it less sustainable exactly? (I don't use a MacBook in 2023)

It’s simplicity I terms of construction and standard. Here, the older standard (3.5mm jack) seems stronger (not an expert but an user opinion) and easier to source than usb c.

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I've had a ton of old headphones and I've never seen something like a 5 pin DIN connector. The old IBM keyboards do use a 5 pin DIN though.

Old keyboards in general if I remember correctly, and mice.

Keyboards yes, mice no. XT and AT keyboards had a big DIN plug until the PS/2 popularized mini DIN for both keyboard and mouse.

But in the XT/AT days mice just connected to the serial port with a 9 pin D sub. Mice weren't all that common in those days anyway as most programs were still text based.

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