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Tangential, but reminded me of Project Cybersyn An electronic country/society-wide dashboard devised in the early 70s for the Chilean government https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn

Even more tangential, but related because of Chilean dreaming ahead of their time

Jodorowsky’s Dune

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodorowsky%27s_Dune

Re: Cybernetic Culture Research Unit

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In the spirit of CCRU, me and a few dozen other people have been having ongoing discussions on related topics under the banner of effective extropianism. I think it’s important to figure out how the landscape of rapidly evolving tech fits into our lives and vice versa. We’re working on a repository of adjacent texts. If you’re interested, my Twitter handle is in my hn bio.

You seem like yet another misguided builder of utopia.

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post #10

… or what happens when you give massive amounts of meth to academic pomo philosophy majors… There were some interesting ideas in there in the beginning, albeit not as original as some thought. A lot of that stuff just goes back to cybernetics, psychedelia, and occultism. But then the CCRU turned a bit culty and some of them including Land lost their minds. The Land went full fascist. There seems to be a connection be…

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Mark Fisher went on to become one of the most significant voices on the Left in the UK before his suicide in 2017. His many online leavings are worth a significant investment of time.

They can't be that good if they produced the UK left, which is one of the world's worst and least successful left movements and is currently promoting "intentionally making the country poorer". Since the UK is already becoming poorer, of course, nobody even needs them for that.

I'm not super intimately familiar with Fishers work but from what I do know I think he would be extremely disappointed with most modern leftist movements.

Though most of what I've read from him is descriptive rather than prescriptive.

Re: Cybernetic Culture Research Unit

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny, then, that meth is a prescription drug given to children (and adults) to increase their tolerance for existence within academic/corporate hierarchies.

Not the same thing at all. The dosages for one are much lower, and people with ADD have a different reaction. ADD is real. It’s not something people make up and it’s not a social pathology. It’s no different from people needing eyeglasses.

> . . . people with ADD have a different reaction

Do you have any sources for this? I’ve heard this repeated a couple of times but have never encountered a good source.

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this looks relevant today https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exiting_the_Vampire_Castle

Rather sharp rebuke of a reactive Leftism that, in an Adam Curtis fashion, had no real vision direction or purpose. Instead reduced to an angry forever defense, snapping out at violators of it's ideals, while rarely offering hope or possibility. Incredibly stunning work that turns the mirror on a side that aptly I think wants to be better than the FUD it has to contend with so persistently.

“… while rarely offering hope or possibility”.

There’s little of that anywhere.

What politicians, artists or philosophers are presenting a credible vision of a better future?

Re: Cybernetic Culture Research Unit

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it's kind of wild how many influential people and work either directly and indirectly came out of the CCRU. Someone else already mentioned Mark Fisher but also Nick Land during his time there when he was still producing academic work published some great pieces, Meltdown is I think a very prescient one. Astonishing that he wrote this in 1994 I think. http://www.ccru.net/swarm1/1_melt.htm

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Mark Fisher went on to become one of the most significant voices on the Left in the UK before his suicide in 2017. His many online leavings are worth a significant investment of time.

They can't be that good if they produced the UK left, which is one of the world's worst and least successful left movements and is currently promoting "intentionally making the country poorer". Since the UK is already becoming poorer, of course, nobody even needs them for that.

Ironically, your comment and it’s snap judgement’s are a fantastic example of the subject of some of his best writings.

Re: Cybernetic Culture Research Unit

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post #14
post #9

Tangential, but reminded me of Project Cybersyn An electronic country/society-wide dashboard devised in the early 70s for the Chilean government https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn

Anyone have links to any of the good takedown articles on Cybersyn? There's plenty of pieces talking it up. And plenty demonizing American CIA actions around those time periods. But the effort itself was such a incredibly simple lo fi system, such a style over substance effort. The screen was literally manually painstakingly updated ahead of time. As an idea I see why Cybersyn was so successful & enrapturing. And CCR…

Scott Locklin has written about it on his blog.

You can actually read the code for Cybersyn on GitHub somewhere.

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