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Re: The techlash that never happened

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Post by reillyduncN »

q7xvh97o2pDhNrh wrote: post #27
anonymouskimmer wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the 2017 results I think it was disingenuous to ignore the "telephone industry" ranking when talking about "tech" in general. The "telephone industry" did improve its relative placement in the 2022 results. I'm also uncertain as to how much of "television and radio industry" should be considered tech, or not.

> I'm also uncertain as to how much of "television and radio industry" should be considered tech, or not. That's the thing. They're all tech industries, at this point.

Intel, Apple, AMD, GM, Ford and nVidia are tech producers (not an exhaustive list).

Everyone else leverages tech production to run CRUD ops on data.

Same as those companies did before but there also happened to be more paper involved.

Re: The techlash that never happened

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Post by andromeduck »

anonymouskimmer wrote: post #26
c22 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you look at the chart over time it looks like 'no party preference' is eating the republican side of the graph. It looks like the republican party is fracturing, which is great because we need more than two political parties. I wish the other side would break up too.

> I wish the other side would break up too. At least in recent years independents (in Congress) have caucused with Democrats, but not Republicans. This is evidence that the Dems are slightly broken up already. To get more fine-grained, each party has sub-divisions (e.g. "Freedom Caucus" in the Republican party). The real problem is that these sub-divisions basically don't cross over to allying with the other party on…

This is starting to change in SF

https://www.brionessociety.org/

Re: The techlash that never happened

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Post by erikto »

comeonbro wrote: post #28
rcpt wrote: post #15

wrt to the NYT specifically, it was an intentional top down decision https://twitter.com/KelseyTuoc/status/1588231892792328192 Context: https://web.archive.org/web/20221104205605/https://twitter.c...

I'm surprised that the article didn't mention this, given the company the author apparently keeps I would have thought he'd have been among the criminally few people who witnessed and is aware of it, and it's both narratively aligned and the single most important piece of background information.

Oh I forgot that one. Good catch.

Re: The techlash that never happened

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Post by erikto »

the_cat_kittles wrote: post #17
chrisco255 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Silicon Valley is 15% Republican and 53% Democrat [1]. Tech is a highly skewed industry. 98% of Netflix employees donated to Democrats in 2020, 77% of Amazon employees. Overall 84% of political donations in major tech companies goes to Democrats [2]. https://siliconvalleyindicators.org/data/governance/civic-en... https://www.newsweek.com/big-tech-employees-donate-overwhelm...

supporting democratic candidates while working for companies that exacerbate the problems they supposed want to fix makes it hard for me to call someone a democrat unambiguously

which problems are you referring to?

Re: The techlash that never happened

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Post by hughesjj »

boondoggle16 wrote: post #34
Zetice wrote: post #31

Just off the top, I'm seeing a common logical misfire here, specifically: > If you asked the average American on the street about tech, they would tell you they like to use products like Airbnb, DoorDash, Uber, Facebook, Amazon, and many other supposedly maligned companies. It's actually a bit of a giveaway when you say "on the street". Most Americans aren't on the street at all. I dunno what the quality of this sour…

Bubbles are super common, and even more common on the internet. I find this phenomenon fascinating. For example, there are many people on HN who absolutely cannot comprehend why people prefer single family housing, with a yard, and a car. So much so, that I've considered writing an article from my perspective, about why I prefer low-density housing. The ratio of commenters to lurkers is super low, and (speaking from…

> For example, there are many people on HN who absolutely cannot comprehend why people prefer single family housing, with a yard, and a car. So much so, that I've considered writing an article from my perspective, about why I prefer low-density housing.

Personally, I've never seen a lack of understanding for the desire of SFHs, but rather the factual realization that SFH housing is not an economically sustainable path for the majority of Americans and the world.

Re: The techlash that never happened

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Post by chrisco255 »

c22 wrote: post #21
chrisco255 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Silicon Valley is 15% Republican and 53% Democrat [1]. Tech is a highly skewed industry. 98% of Netflix employees donated to Democrats in 2020, 77% of Amazon employees. Overall 84% of political donations in major tech companies goes to Democrats [2]. https://siliconvalleyindicators.org/data/governance/civic-en... https://www.newsweek.com/big-tech-employees-donate-overwhelm...

If you look at the chart over time it looks like 'no party preference' is eating the republican side of the graph. It looks like the republican party is fracturing, which is great because we need more than two political parties. I wish the other side would break up too.

This is just a chart for Silicon Valley. The Republican party fractured in California since the 70s, that much is certain. The Democrats have enjoyed a supermajority monopoly in that state for quite some time. But this is not an indication of the country as a whole. Of course, in other areas, the Republican base got stronger since the 70s.

Re: The techlash that never happened

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Post by jchw »

mnkv wrote: post #8

Of all the absolute horseshit in the article, the most obviously wrong is saying that "tech doesn't play both sides of the political aisle". So obviously wrong if you look at any single company. Just recently, we saw how FTX was lobbying hard for both sides. And there absolutely has been a backlash against tech. Ask any Facebook employee how people react when they say where they work.

I worked at Google for a few years and moved back to the Midwest afterwards. At first I was afraid to mention it even if it came up directly, but honestly I've come to realize that this perception that everyone hates tech companies so much that there's a stigma against it is probably more paranoia than truth. Whenever it does come up, I think people are put off by how much I preface it as if it's something terrible. I've since stopped doing so.

The truth is, even if some of this could be explained by social pressure, I really think most people in the world just don't care as much as you think they do.

More than anything most people just seem annoyed by tech companies.

Actually, now that I think about it, the most unwelcome I've ever felt for working in tech was in California.

Re: The techlash that never happened

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Post by [deleted] »

blululu wrote: post #10
mnkv wrote: post #8

Of all the absolute horseshit in the article, the most obviously wrong is saying that "tech doesn't play both sides of the political aisle". So obviously wrong if you look at any single company. Just recently, we saw how FTX was lobbying hard for both sides. And there absolutely has been a backlash against tech. Ask any Facebook employee how people react when they say where they work.

What? Internet companies are up there with trade unions and Hollywood in donating to the left: https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/most-partisan... Facebook is an exception. They really let their brand collapse on multiple levels. Looking at the rest of FAANG (MAGMA? whatever) the situation is pretty different. Nobody at Microsoft is ashamed to tell their families that they make dashboards to help visualiz…

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