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Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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I'm surprised Airbnb has't cracked another rental market for the corporate world by renting out spare desks in existing offices for rando workers.

I've been wondering quite a lot about that while nomading, but I think essentially the numbers don't add up while massively increasing operational overhead.

It's too big of a risk at the moment, which is why these quotes from him keep coming - I think he's trying to create the demand side because it's not big enough yet, but if it becomes "the norm" they can capitalize on it.

I do think they missed an opportunity during covid to move it towards "the norm" by testing a subsidized "airbnb for work" but who knows.

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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It's a balance, isn't it?

- People who work from home have more time, maybe an entire 10 hours a week for some people, measured from when you are able to start work. In high autonomy roles, you feel some ownership over your work and you are happy to share some of that 10 hours with work.

- If you are set up to work from home, you can finish off bits and pieces when you find the time. So you're also happy to share some of the other hours with work, eg if something breaks.

- With high autonomy, you can also decide to "share" some of the official work hours. What's the big deal if I have my shower after dropping off the kids? Most people wouldn't take the piss but I guess some people do. These are the ones the bosses are scared of having on their team.

- Bosses are also aware if their job is low-autonomy, low ownership. It's hard to get someone to just do whatever is needed in these roles, so the boss feels he needs to be able to oversee everyone in the office. Of course there are ways to skive off while sitting in the office too, but the budget is already planned according to that kind of loss. This new kind of loss from someone skiving off completely at home is not something he wants to embarrass him.

- There's a distinction between jobs where the output is linearly related to the input and those where it isn't. If you're stacking shelves, being there another hour gets another hour's worth of shelves stacked. If you're writing a complicated program, hanging around an extra hour might do nothing at all to shorten the time to finish it. At the same time a good hour spent coding could reduce the remaining time by 10 hours, weirdly. If you have a linear-output job, your boss wants you on your butt working constantly. If you have a fluctuating output job, he wants you to work just the productive hours.

To the point about having more choice vs having everyone in one place:

- Once you specify a few skills, it becomes quite rare to find a person with the skills who is open to being hired. How many people in London can do you your average Django stack, with a bit of SQL + React, are currently free, have seen your advert, will pass your silly test, and want to work for you rather than your competitor? Even a pretty broad spec like that does not actually give you a huge number of people. Let people work from home and you gather up several times the number.

- Having everyone in one place is more important for socializing than for working. It's actually easy to discuss technical things online. There's a bunch of tools for it, like GitHub, Slack, Zoom, and so on. It's not hard to get across a technical point. "Code doesn't work in this case, let's debug..."

- What's harder is getting a rapport with people on an emotional level. Something about being able to see the whole person's body language, being able to eat a meal with them, talk to them about non-work stuff, makes you feel more connected. But think about it, you are not doing this most of the time in the office. You might do drinks once a week, or you might have the occasional teambuilding. You might as well rent a smaller office and fly people in to do your paintballing or whatever.

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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More remote work helps the planet too you know since it reduces ones carbon footprint and more time for people to sleep improves mental health too

100 businesses are responsible for 70% of fossil fuel use. doing what you can is great, but it won't make a difference unless businesses change as well.

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> it reduces ones carbon footprint Is this proven (it probably can't be proven given the huge variety of commutes, office spaces, heating sources etc.)? It would be my default assumption but I feel like heating one office with 100 people in it is much more efficient than heating 100 homes in winter. And if people are in a location where publish transport is the norm then it might be better in terms of carbon impact…

But people will be heating their home in winter in any case, whether they're remote or on-site.

People also generate heat.

So in the cold months, it might be an even bigger win by relieving their home heating system of some work.

I guess the flip side is when the house needs to be cooled.

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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post #6

Yet, most IT work is on-site. At least in EU.

Not my experience in over a decade but I'm looking strictly for remote and don't bother with hybrid/onsite.

Mind sharing how you approach this?

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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More remote work helps the planet too you know since it reduces ones carbon footprint and more time for people to sleep improves mental health too

100 businesses are responsible for 70% of fossil fuel use. doing what you can is great, but it won't make a difference unless businesses change as well.

Those businesses are big because they’re the abstraction layer over the fact that what they produce is something a lot of people want. If they were destroyed overnight an awful lot of people would die and then their economic function would be reconstituted, probably more carbon intensive because it’s more robust to supply chain disruption.

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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More remote work helps the planet too you know since it reduces ones carbon footprint and more time for people to sleep improves mental health too

100 businesses are responsible for 70% of fossil fuel use. doing what you can is great, but it won't make a difference unless businesses change as well.

I have heard that stat before and it turns out those business are basically shipping and freight companies, car manufacturers etc.

if you somehow told the companies to stop burning oil and carbon most world trade would stop, and they would have to take peoples cars a away

Yes we could reduce the impact (burn cleaner diesel on ships, avoid contrails) but this is not 100 evil companies that need to be taught a lesson - this is all of us, billions of humans and our default lifestyle

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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post #24

Perhaps he should put his money where his mouth is: https://careers.airbnb.com/positions/ Because "US, except these states" isn’t exactly hiring "from anywhere".

Time zones and expected levels of education are still significant factors.

You generally don't want to be hiring people from regions with a substandard education system - and if they're in another time zone they can spend all night ruining your day before you even start work.

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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I'm surprised Airbnb has't cracked another rental market for the corporate world by renting out spare desks in existing offices for rando workers.

What about just "come an work in my home office"? Seems like a similar thing. I'd totally do that now and again if it were available in my area.

That’s an interesting combination of WeWork and Airbnb. It makes sense; people go to WeWork to not be alone, and remote work forces people to use their spare rooms to create home offices. So now they can’t rent out the spare room in Airbnb but they could rent a shared desk for work.
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